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Subject: Re: Shredder, ChessBits and Marcus Kaestner

Author: Detlef Pordzik

Date: 04:57:33 10/02/00

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On October 02, 2000 at 03:19:00, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote:

>
>
>Some strange and false statements about my person and my program Shredder have
>recently been published. I think that it is necessary to make some facts known:
>
>
>1. The following statements by Marcus Kaestner are FALSE:
>
>* Marcus Kaestner claims on his homepage and the cover of the latest issue of
>his magazine to have tested a beta version of Shredder5 and the latest beta
>version of Shredder in his magazine, on the cover he evens calls it just
>“Shredder5”.
>* Marcus Kaestner has claimed here to have tested the London version of Shredder
>and found it inferior to other programs that also have competed in London.
>* Calling me stupid for not allowing to publish the ChessBits rating list, where
>Shredder 4.16 is supposed to be “the clear number 1” doesn’t make much sense to
>me as I can’t know a rating list which hasn’t been published yet.
>
>
>2. The CORRECT facts are:
>
>* Marcus Kaestner was a beta tester of Shredder until beginning of June 2000
>when I found out that he has copied beta versions to third parties.
>* The last beta version of Shredder he received was version 4.16 from beginning
>of June.
>* The version playing in London was Shredder 4.24.
>* Shredder 4.24 and 4.16 differ significantly, e.g. the evaluation function of
>Shredder 4.16 is still very similar to the commercial version Shredder4 which is
>certainly no longer true for version 4.24.
>* There is still a long way to go to complete Shredder5.
>* To call version 4.16 or even versions prior to that a “Shredder 5 Beta” or
>even “Shredder 5” is definitely INCORRECT.
>* I don’t have access to preprints of ChessBits so I have no idea about the
>content of the latest issue as long as it hasn’t been published yet. I can only
>judge from the cover and Marcus Kaestner’s announcements.
>* Marcus Kaestner has found other programs to support, e.g. he was operating
>Tiger in London and was responsible for Rebel and Tiger playing the Belgrade
>Gambit in London against Shredder as he knew that previous versions of Shredder
>have handled this opening not very well. Luckily for me the London version of
>Shredder has improved also in this regards,
>* I was personally insulted by Marcus Kaestner on his homepage several times.
>
>
>3. Conclusions:
>
>* I simply ask Marcus Kaestner to stop claiming having tested beta versions of
>Shredder5, the London version of Shredder or even a current beta version of
>Shredder and to stop his personal aggressions immediately.
>* I have no idea why Marcus Kaestner is acting like this except for pushing his
>magazine and trying to harm Shredder.
>* I don’t want to deal with Marcus Kaestner again for obvious reasons. This
>whole story is no fun for me and I don’t like dealing with lawyers and these
>endless discussions in the Internet. It keeps me from working on Shredder.
>* If the good reputation of my program and our legal rights need to be defended
>I and my distributor Ossi Weiner will certainly do so.
>
>
>Stefan Meyer-Kahlen (author of Shredder)


As I've said just recently - and you should know it by now - it's time to stick
it....all this rumble in the jungle for " nearly nothin' " -

Ed stated totally correct, that the man is off to some kind of job; so he can't
clarify, defend nor excuse himself at present anyhow.

By far n' near I see no realistic aspect under which Shredder could loose - any
kind - of reputation; quite similar to the other all time legends like Rebel,
Fritz, The King...did I forget anyone accidentally ?
Impossible -
even the more, as the prog captured 4 titles in a row - countin' in the double
shot at Paderborn - so, what the heck ?

If, at all, you could set up your mind anew and make up some conclusions for the
upcoming future - but that ain't no public adress for my opinion.

So, to give you an - unasked -  but nevertheless well minded, good advice :

do your thing, finish the product, then get, what you deserve - and let things
themself roll on down the aimed paths. Take your personal conclusions, in case
you aren't satisfied with whatsoever in the past - and turn back the tide to the
ways you wish them to be -

but stay outta public with this - it is, it was and it never will be elegant.

steady rockin'

ELVIS





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