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Subject: Re: Shredder, ChessBits and Marcus Kaestner

Author: Bertil Eklund

Date: 11:46:57 10/02/00

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On October 02, 2000 at 13:24:51, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On October 02, 2000 at 08:55:25, Ritter Rost wrote:
>
>>If you deal with journalists, you experience that they sometimes write unwanted
>>or incorrect things. Marcus Kaestner is an impulsive enthusiast who cannot
>>really hurt you with his circulation of 200-300 copies. He is no rocket
>>scientist but he represents the part of the market which is important for
>>Shredder: the computer chess freaks.
>
>Without wanting to get involved into the chessbits vs shredder/MCS case,
>a world micro world title is potentially worth way more as 300 copies.
>
>A million dollar?
>
>>In my opinion this pompous law-suit-overreaction leaves a sour taste. I always
>>thought you had nothing to do with the legal threats/actions in the name of
>>Shredder. The campaign against the SSDF is only a couple of weeks behind us. If
>
>SSDF is a clear case of outbooking and 'who has the better learning' and
>'who provides SSDF with a new machine' and 'my implementation of
>auto232 doesn't give you a save game command so you can't learn hehehehe'.

No one has ever provided us with a new machine or a single dollar.
All programs of today learns even if the game for some reason isn't saved.
Even if you are a programmer and good chess-player it would be nice if you at
least occasitionally told the truth or checked the facts.

Bertil

>Note that SSDF plays with each program only a fraction of the games that
>are played in tests with the programs, SOS perhaps being an exception, though
>some others might want to command even the opposite of that as many could
>test a winboard version.
>
>However, where this list is arguable a complete freak list, just a
>few freak see the output of that list. This is completely independant from a
>possible WMCC title which gets stolen from a person because a tester of
>him has revealed information to a third party (without wanting to
>take position whether Marcus DID reveal such information).
>
>Thank God that tiger lost that game. 1/2 point behind Fritz otherwise,
>which didn't even get DIEP as opponent, though i had prepared for Fritz.
>
>>it hadn't been such a repetitive boredom people might have actually read those
>>endless articles of your friends in German Chess Magazines against the SSDF.
>
>>Your post here provokes unwanted advice like the following: You are not good at
>>law suits and mud-throwing. You are good at writing chess programs.
>
>Oh well that's true for al lot of persons. Especially myself included in
>the 'you suck in contracts' list.



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