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Subject: Re: RDRAM rocks for chessprograms

Author: Ernst Walet

Date: 14:44:36 10/02/00

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On October 01, 2000 at 12:12:42, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On September 30, 2000 at 05:58:57, Dan Andersson wrote:
>
>>As usual I wonder where you get your facts? 100 MHz DDR on a beta board gave
>>between 5 and 15 % percent increase. See Aces Hardware for example.
>
>from the biggest computermagazine in netherlands.
>they produced a lot of tables.
>
>Note that i remember when P60 came out that everyone said it
>was slow compared to a 486dx2. I got P60 after some time it was hell
>faster as any 486 for me.
>
>I remember the first reports about the pentiumpro. It would be faster
>for 32 bits, but fact was most said: "everything is 16 bits". It would
>be dead slow they said.
>
>It was 3 TIMES faster as a P133, and still is.
>
>I remember that some people in the rgcc/ccc group said that SDRAM
>isn't faster as EDO ram basically.
>
>I got SDRAM and it speeded my draughtsprogram 2 times up, BECAUSE IT IS
>HELL FASTER.
>
>Now if you can't believe that DDR ram is reported to be slower,
>may i point out to the history i've seen?
>
>First reports are to be taken with a bit of salt!
>
>I don't *doubt* ddr-sdram will in the end be exactly 2 times faster as
>SDRAM. Note that it's not 2-2-2 DDR ram yet, so if you compare that
>with 133Mhz 2-2-2 SDRAM i can imagine it's faster seemingly now.
>
>I don't doubt that RDRAM kicks ass either. If i see in a table that
>latency from SDRAM is 15T, and that it potentially runs way faster as
>SDRAM, that this is gonna outperform SDRAM with less latency 10T namely for
>2-2-2 sdram, but that it just can't beat its speed.
>
>You just need a good chipset for RDRAM and a new and very fast processor,
>only if something is your 'bottleneck' it will help speeding it up.
>
>Also i don't see how you can ever keep running with such slow RAM.
>I have a dual 800 PIII, but my RAM runs at 100Mhz (even though it's 133Mhz
>sdram). that's 8 times difference!!!!!!
>
>Real soon we'll be able to buy 1.xx Ghz processors, still with 133Mhz
>SDRAM?


It seems to me that you are forgetting about one thing, that RDRAM uses a 16 bit
data path.  Compared to SDRAM's 64 bit.  RDRAM has a higher latency with random
memory access as well.  Even Intel nowadays admits that SDRAM beats RDRAM.

Ernst.



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