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Subject: Moderation -> Re: Shredder, ChessBits and Marcus Kaestner

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:54:13 10/02/00

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I think everybody has had their say here.  I would like to ask for cooler
heads to prevail, and let's let this die the death it deserves.  Otherwise
it is going to turn into a free-for-all.  I haven't asked the other moderators
if we should start deleting things (yet).  I hope we don't have to...



On October 02, 2000 at 03:19:00, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote:

>
>
>Some strange and false statements about my person and my program Shredder have
>recently been published. I think that it is necessary to make some facts known:
>
>
>1. The following statements by Marcus Kaestner are FALSE:
>
>* Marcus Kaestner claims on his homepage and the cover of the latest issue of
>his magazine to have tested a beta version of Shredder5 and the latest beta
>version of Shredder in his magazine, on the cover he evens calls it just
>?Shredder5?.
>* Marcus Kaestner has claimed here to have tested the London version of Shredder
>and found it inferior to other programs that also have competed in London.
>* Calling me stupid for not allowing to publish the ChessBits rating list, where
>Shredder 4.16 is supposed to be ?the clear number 1? doesn?t make much sense to
>me as I can?t know a rating list which hasn?t been published yet.
>
>
>2. The CORRECT facts are:
>
>* Marcus Kaestner was a beta tester of Shredder until beginning of June 2000
>when I found out that he has copied beta versions to third parties.
>* The last beta version of Shredder he received was version 4.16 from beginning
>of June.
>* The version playing in London was Shredder 4.24.
>* Shredder 4.24 and 4.16 differ significantly, e.g. the evaluation function of
>Shredder 4.16 is still very similar to the commercial version Shredder4 which is
>certainly no longer true for version 4.24.
>* There is still a long way to go to complete Shredder5.
>* To call version 4.16 or even versions prior to that a ?Shredder 5 Beta? or
>even ?Shredder 5? is definitely INCORRECT.
>* I don?t have access to preprints of ChessBits so I have no idea about the
>content of the latest issue as long as it hasn?t been published yet. I can only
>judge from the cover and Marcus Kaestner?s announcements.
>* Marcus Kaestner has found other programs to support, e.g. he was operating
>Tiger in London and was responsible for Rebel and Tiger playing the Belgrade
>Gambit in London against Shredder as he knew that previous versions of Shredder
>have handled this opening not very well. Luckily for me the London version of
>Shredder has improved also in this regards,
>* I was personally insulted by Marcus Kaestner on his homepage several times.
>
>
>3. Conclusions:
>
>* I simply ask Marcus Kaestner to stop claiming having tested beta versions of
>Shredder5, the London version of Shredder or even a current beta version of
>Shredder and to stop his personal aggressions immediately.
>* I have no idea why Marcus Kaestner is acting like this except for pushing his
>magazine and trying to harm Shredder.
>* I don?t want to deal with Marcus Kaestner again for obvious reasons. This
>whole story is no fun for me and I don?t like dealing with lawyers and these
>endless discussions in the Internet. It keeps me from working on Shredder.
>* If the good reputation of my program and our legal rights need to be defended
>I and my distributor Ossi Weiner will certainly do so.
>
>
>Stefan Meyer-Kahlen (author of Shredder)



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