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Subject: Moderation: stop now.

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:22:36 10/04/00

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THis is neither the place nor the time for this kind of discussion.  Either
take it to a public newsgroup, or to private email, or to some publication of
your choice.

But _not_ here.

Enough has been said.

If it continues, it all gets deleted.



On October 04, 2000 at 15:30:32, Marcus Kaestner wrote:

>first of all it speaks for itself that stefan writes this post during my
>absence. he was very well informed, that i´m offline for several days and he
>used the right moment for this so that i have had no chance to react.
>
>it´s a really nice and smart guy this man. as djordje posted some month ago
>about him: "...sticking out of the dark, beeing very careful not to be hitten
>himself..."
>
>>Some strange and false statements about my person and my program Shredder have
>recently been published. I think that it is necessary to make some facts known:
>
>
>>1. The following statements by Marcus Kaestner are FALSE:
>
>>* Marcus Kaestner claims on his homepage and the cover of the latest issue of
>his magazine to have tested a beta version of Shredder5 and the latest beta
>version of Shredder in his magazine, on the cover he evens calls it just
>?Shredder5?.
>
>you are not able to read even german (or you don´t want to read correct). there
>is no beta-test announced. only the latest results in the chessbits rating list.
>
>everybody can see it at:
>
>http://mitglied.tripod.de/ChessBits/index.html
>
>
>>2. The CORRECT facts are:
>
>>* Marcus Kaestner was a beta tester of Shredder until beginning of June 2000
>when I found out that he has copied beta versions to third parties.
>
>there are some more explanations necessary:
>
>1.i was not a beta tester, i was involved in making the engine stronger.
>
>2.i never gave a beta to a third party. this is only a pretence to hurt me and
>to damage my image in the public. you are a mean guy!
>
>the right thing is, that i gave a beta to elvis, who was book-cooker of
>shredder, because his beta-version has been crashed and you was not available.
>even ossi weiner admits these days, that elvis was and is a team-member!
>by the way: in the law-suite you opened finally, there is no single sentence of
>giving away betas to unauthorised persons. so everyone can see that this
>accusement is only for damaging...
>
>
>>* Marcus Kaestner has found other programs to support, e.g. he was operating
>Tiger in London and was responsible for Rebel and Tiger playing the Belgrade
>Gambit in London against Shredder as he knew that previous versions of Shredder
>have handled this opening not very well. Luckily for me the London version of
>Shredder has improved also in this regards,
>
>you are really a mean guy! first you posted that i wanted to outbook shredder
>using my inside knowledge. when ed and christophe said that it was only jeroens
>work, you said that you have had the impression because of my behavior in london
>in the tiger-shredder game. what a lie!
>
>1.you know very well, that i never use my inside knowledge. last year before the
>wcc in paderborn YOU wanted me to prepare shredder against tiger for the
>tournament, because i was the owner of the latest tiger versions! i refused and
>said to you, that i would NEVER do that, because the other programmers are
>trusting me.
>2.it is not possible that you could have the impression that i would have done
>that. at the beginning and during the game i said to you, that i would never do
>that and that the opening choice was only jeroens work.
>
>but here you have the face to insult me this way. poor man...
>
>
>
>>* I have no idea why Marcus Kaestner is acting like this except for pushing his
>magazine and trying to harm Shredder.
>
>nonsense. i never have harmed shredder or any other program. so you think i harm
>shredder? out of this reason i announced shredder to become world champion in
>london? out of this reason i publish the latest tournament list with new
>shredder on no.1, beeing more than 100 points above fritz 6? your mind must be
>fogged, your success has been coming to your head....
>
>i have compassion on you.
>
>and a last thing:
>
>it doesn´t matter what you or your nasty boss will do to me:
>your program will get the review it deserves. objective and without pre-justice.
>that is my understanding of journalism.
>
>but you and your boss as persons should take care about yourselves VERY well.
>the moment will come when the open invoice will be paid...
>i can wait.
>
>marcus



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