Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 22:06:53 10/04/00
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On October 05, 2000 at 00:49:06, Christophe Theron wrote: >On October 04, 2000 at 18:13:13, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On October 04, 2000 at 17:44:46, Torstein Hall wrote: >> >>>On October 04, 2000 at 16:22:36, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>The accusations from SMK is still here. He has an obvious right to answer!! >>> >>>If you think this do not belong here, you should have stopped the accusations >>>first! Now I feel that to be fair, the answer should stay for a while. >> >>You are assuming that the moderators read all the messages and also that someone >>has complained. The complaints have started only recently. I (for instance) >>read only a fraction of the messages, and the topic for this thread was totally >>uninteresting to me. Now that people have started to holler about it, some >>action will be taken. Possibly, all threads related to this topic will simply >>be removed. > > > >Dann, sorry to say this, but if you have missed the message where Stefan accused >Marcus, then you and the moderation team are doing a poor job. I can't believe >it. > >The current world champion posts a new topic with a flashy title, and no >moderator reads it? Come on... My wife nearly died, and I have been at the hospital with her. I missed over one week of messages completely. And I really don't read messages that look political, no matter who wrote them unless some quirky thing catches my attention or for some other strange reason I decide to read it. I don't read messages about chessmaster, and I don't read messages about many other topics that keenly interest many others. This is an incredibly busy month for me, and I have hardly been reading here at all. Over on the Winboard forum, someone was asking if something has happened to me! >I don't think you missed it, so I'm going to assume that the moderators have >read Stefan's accusing message. What purpose is served by lying about it? I don't care one bit about the matter either way, though I do think it is silly to try to hold a trial in the press for either party. >In this case, as Stefan's message (which contained obvious personal attacks) has >not been moderated AT ALL, then Marcus has the right to answer and his message >should be left here. Even if people complain about it. It is simply called the >right to answer. WHO used the moderator form to send a message to the moderators on that post? ANSWER: Nobody. And really, honestly, I didn't read it. >On the other hand I perfectly understand that the moderators are worrying about >a possible expansion of the thread beyond any reasonnable limit. > >I think that posts under the same topic that are obviously trying to add fuel to >the flames should indeed be moderated. But if somebody has a fact to give about >the topic, it should be allowed. It has probably come to the time where all the threads should be removed about that topic. It's pointless at best. If someone really wants to go on about it, there is always news:rec.games.chess.misc or whatever. >I also think that Stefan and Marcus should be allowed to discuss the matter in >the public place, because it is apparently the way they have chosen. Provided >they try to control themselves and stop insulting each other. If insults are flying it's already too late for that. Since people are now becoming annoyed at the mess, I think it is a waste of time to discuss it here. A big flame fest is sure to ensue. Does *anyone* really imagine that personal differences are going to be settled by banter about it in CCC? Will either of the interested parties _really_ be able to detach themselves enough from their own feelings to the degree necessary for a calm rational discussion? Is it really the case that it could not better be handled via email, or (better yet) both parties apologizing to each other, a warm slap on the back, and a promise to buy each other a beer the next time they meet? >This story sounds like such a nonsense that I believe there has been some >misunderstanding at some point. Could be. I still don't really know the particulars, and I have only read *one* post on the topic (the one that was complained about) which was written by neither Marcus nor Stefan. >If some people in the group can help them to see the light, then the discussion >has its place here. We have already seen worse and more useless threads on CCC, >and we're still there... The existance of useless threads does not make them a good idea. The threads are starting to cause a stir. Will continued discussions really solve any issues? Or will the scratching cause more itching which causes more scratching which causes more itching.
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