Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 23:52:31 10/04/00
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On October 05, 2000 at 01:06:53, Dann Corbit wrote:
>On October 05, 2000 at 00:49:06, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On October 04, 2000 at 18:13:13, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On October 04, 2000 at 17:44:46, Torstein Hall wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 04, 2000 at 16:22:36, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>The accusations from SMK is still here. He has an obvious right to answer!!
>>>>
>>>>If you think this do not belong here, you should have stopped the accusations
>>>>first! Now I feel that to be fair, the answer should stay for a while.
>>>
>>>You are assuming that the moderators read all the messages and also that someone
>>>has complained. The complaints have started only recently. I (for instance)
>>>read only a fraction of the messages, and the topic for this thread was totally
>>>uninteresting to me. Now that people have started to holler about it, some
>>>action will be taken. Possibly, all threads related to this topic will simply
>>>be removed.
>>
>>
>>
>>Dann, sorry to say this, but if you have missed the message where Stefan accused
>>Marcus, then you and the moderation team are doing a poor job. I can't believe
>>it.
>>
>>The current world champion posts a new topic with a flashy title, and no
>>moderator reads it? Come on...
>
>My wife nearly died, and I have been at the hospital with her.
I'm really sorry to read this, Dann. I hope she's alright now.
I understand how futile this discussion can appear then.
I apologize.
Take good care of you, of her.
Christophe
> I missed over
>one week of messages completely. And I really don't read messages that look
>political, no matter who wrote them unless some quirky thing catches my
>attention or for some other strange reason I decide to read it. I don't read
>messages about chessmaster, and I don't read messages about many other topics
>that keenly interest many others. This is an incredibly busy month for me, and
>I have hardly been reading here at all. Over on the Winboard forum, someone was
>asking if something has happened to me!
>
>>I don't think you missed it, so I'm going to assume that the moderators have
>>read Stefan's accusing message.
>
>What purpose is served by lying about it? I don't care one bit about the matter
>either way, though I do think it is silly to try to hold a trial in the press
>for either party.
>
>>In this case, as Stefan's message (which contained obvious personal attacks) has
>>not been moderated AT ALL, then Marcus has the right to answer and his message
>>should be left here. Even if people complain about it. It is simply called the
>>right to answer.
>
>WHO used the moderator form to send a message to the moderators on that post?
>ANSWER: Nobody. And really, honestly, I didn't read it.
>
>>On the other hand I perfectly understand that the moderators are worrying about
>>a possible expansion of the thread beyond any reasonnable limit.
>>
>>I think that posts under the same topic that are obviously trying to add fuel to
>>the flames should indeed be moderated. But if somebody has a fact to give about
>>the topic, it should be allowed.
>
>It has probably come to the time where all the threads should be removed about
>that topic. It's pointless at best. If someone really wants to go on about it,
>there is always news:rec.games.chess.misc or whatever.
>
>>I also think that Stefan and Marcus should be allowed to discuss the matter in
>>the public place, because it is apparently the way they have chosen. Provided
>>they try to control themselves and stop insulting each other.
>
>If insults are flying it's already too late for that. Since people are now
>becoming annoyed at the mess, I think it is a waste of time to discuss it here.
>A big flame fest is sure to ensue. Does *anyone* really imagine that personal
>differences are going to be settled by banter about it in CCC? Will either of
>the interested parties _really_ be able to detach themselves enough from their
>own feelings to the degree necessary for a calm rational discussion? Is it
>really the case that it could not better be handled via email, or (better yet)
>both parties apologizing to each other, a warm slap on the back, and a promise
>to buy each other a beer the next time they meet?
>
>>This story sounds like such a nonsense that I believe there has been some
>>misunderstanding at some point.
>
>Could be. I still don't really know the particulars, and I have only read *one*
>post on the topic (the one that was complained about) which was written by
>neither Marcus nor Stefan.
>
>>If some people in the group can help them to see the light, then the discussion
>>has its place here. We have already seen worse and more useless threads on CCC,
>>and we're still there...
>
>The existance of useless threads does not make them a good idea. The threads
>are starting to cause a stir. Will continued discussions really solve any
>issues? Or will the scratching cause more itching which causes more scratching
>which causes more itching.
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