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Subject: Re: Moderation: stop now.

Author: Djordje Vidanovic

Date: 01:48:34 10/05/00

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On October 04, 2000 at 16:22:36, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>
>THis is neither the place nor the time for this kind of discussion.  Either
>take it to a public newsgroup, or to private email, or to some publication of
>your choice.
>
>But _not_ here.
>
>Enough has been said.
>
>If it continues, it all gets deleted.
>
>
>
>On October 04, 2000 at 15:30:32, Marcus Kaestner wrote:
>
>>first of all it speaks for itself that stefan writes this post during my
>>absence. he was very well informed, that i´m offline for several days and he
>>used the right moment for this so that i have had no chance to react.
>>
>>it´s a really nice and smart guy this man. as djordje posted some month ago
>>about him: "...sticking out of the dark, beeing very careful not to be hitten
>>himself..."
>>
>>>Some strange and false statements about my person and my program Shredder have
>>recently been published. I think that it is necessary to make some facts known:
>>
>>
>>>1. The following statements by Marcus Kaestner are FALSE:
>>
>>>* Marcus Kaestner claims on his homepage and the cover of the latest issue of
>>his magazine to have tested a beta version of Shredder5 and the latest beta
>>version of Shredder in his magazine, on the cover he evens calls it just
>>?Shredder5?.
>>
>>you are not able to read even german (or you don´t want to read correct). there
>>is no beta-test announced. only the latest results in the chessbits rating list.
>>
>>everybody can see it at:
>>
>>http://mitglied.tripod.de/ChessBits/index.html
>>
>>
>>>2. The CORRECT facts are:
>>
>>>* Marcus Kaestner was a beta tester of Shredder until beginning of June 2000
>>when I found out that he has copied beta versions to third parties.
>>
>>there are some more explanations necessary:
>>
>>1.i was not a beta tester, i was involved in making the engine stronger.
>>
>>2.i never gave a beta to a third party. this is only a pretence to hurt me and
>>to damage my image in the public. you are a mean guy!
>>
>>the right thing is, that i gave a beta to elvis, who was book-cooker of
>>shredder, because his beta-version has been crashed and you was not available.
>>even ossi weiner admits these days, that elvis was and is a team-member!
>>by the way: in the law-suite you opened finally, there is no single sentence of
>>giving away betas to unauthorised persons. so everyone can see that this
>>accusement is only for damaging...
>>
>>
>>>* Marcus Kaestner has found other programs to support, e.g. he was operating
>>Tiger in London and was responsible for Rebel and Tiger playing the Belgrade
>>Gambit in London against Shredder as he knew that previous versions of Shredder
>>have handled this opening not very well. Luckily for me the London version of
>>Shredder has improved also in this regards,
>>
>>you are really a mean guy! first you posted that i wanted to outbook shredder
>>using my inside knowledge. when ed and christophe said that it was only jeroens
>>work, you said that you have had the impression because of my behavior in london
>>in the tiger-shredder game. what a lie!
>>
>>1.you know very well, that i never use my inside knowledge. last year before the
>>wcc in paderborn YOU wanted me to prepare shredder against tiger for the
>>tournament, because i was the owner of the latest tiger versions! i refused and
>>said to you, that i would NEVER do that, because the other programmers are
>>trusting me.
>>2.it is not possible that you could have the impression that i would have done
>>that. at the beginning and during the game i said to you, that i would never do
>>that and that the opening choice was only jeroens work.
>>
>>but here you have the face to insult me this way. poor man...
>>
>>
>>
>>>* I have no idea why Marcus Kaestner is acting like this except for pushing his
>>magazine and trying to harm Shredder.
>>
>>nonsense. i never have harmed shredder or any other program. so you think i harm
>>shredder? out of this reason i announced shredder to become world champion in
>>london? out of this reason i publish the latest tournament list with new
>>shredder on no.1, beeing more than 100 points above fritz 6? your mind must be
>>fogged, your success has been coming to your head....
>>
>>i have compassion on you.
>>
>>and a last thing:
>>
>>it doesn´t matter what you or your nasty boss will do to me:
>>your program will get the review it deserves. objective and without pre-justice.
>>that is my understanding of journalism.
>>
>>but you and your boss as persons should take care about yourselves VERY well.
>>the moment will come when the open invoice will be paid...
>>i can wait.
>>
>>marcus


Bob, Dann and I agree on this:  each side had their say, spice has been added to
CCC, but more of it would be nauseating.  This issue is closed from now on.


***  Djordje





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