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Subject: Re: Once again Dr. Hyatt is right on--He is a dispassionate observer.

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:57:07 10/05/00

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On October 05, 2000 at 00:28:24, Chessfun wrote:

>On October 05, 2000 at 00:01:24, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On October 04, 2000 at 17:07:28, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>On October 04, 2000 at 16:28:22, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 04, 2000 at 10:21:13, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 04, 2000 at 10:15:50, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On October 04, 2000 at 01:45:57, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On October 04, 2000 at 00:35:34, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On October 03, 2000 at 20:46:43, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Err.. exactly _what_ program won't kick a GM at blitz?  I have seen GNU do it.
>>>>>>>>>I have seen everybody else do it too...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>This is hardly a distinguishing event.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Dr. Hyatt,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You are correct.  One game does not mean much.  Gambit Tiger made it look so
>>>>>>>>easy though and Mecking made some decent moves.  We will see how good this
>>>>>>>>program is within the next six months.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The audience that will be buying these type of programs will be most amused by
>>>>>>>>the style of play of Gambit Tiger.  I am certain that you would enjoy it too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Tim Frohlick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sorry, but for me you both miss the point.
>>>>>>>The game is of interest not because this is a GM,
>>>>>>>but who this GM is. It would be of interest to me
>>>>>>>and others I'm sure regardless of the program or the result.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>>>Sarah.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So that game is more interesting than watching Shirov get smashed over and over
>>>>>>on ICC?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Personally for me...yes.
>>>>>Mecking IMO is equal to seeing games of Karpov or Kasparov
>>>>>against computers. While I don't disagree that most programs
>>>>>would smash GM's at these time controls.....there are some GM's
>>>>>that have a certain legend to them. Mecking is IMO one Shirov is not.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sarah.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>We have a difference of opinion then.  I consider Shirov _far_ stronger against
>>>>programs.
>>>
>>>
>>>I would say there are many GM's stronger than Mecking
>>>at both OTB and against computers, but again that wasn't my point.
>>>
>>>Sarah.
>
>
>>Mine neither.  Simply that a program beating a single GM (and an old one at
>>that) in one game is _not_ news.
>
>Who said it _was_ news. Is everything that's posted news.
>
>And it may simply be an old GM to you.
>But to myself and many others it's not that simple.
>This was Mecking.!!
>
>>Programs beat the best in the world at blitz
>>all the time. ho hum is the usual response to winning a blitz game today.
>
>As you have already now said, three times.
>I thought I had already agreed to that two posts ago.
>
>Sarah.

Then do you get a kick out of posting "ho hum" non-news?

Beating Mecking or _any_ other GM does not make a new program significant.
Other than to note that it is very strong.  But then again....  gnu is very
strong using that metric.




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