Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 11:40:48 10/05/00
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On October 05, 2000 at 13:21:02, Chessfun wrote: >On October 05, 2000 at 10:57:07, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On October 05, 2000 at 00:28:24, Chessfun wrote: >> >>>On October 05, 2000 at 00:01:24, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On October 04, 2000 at 17:07:28, Chessfun wrote: >>>> >>>>>On October 04, 2000 at 16:28:22, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On October 04, 2000 at 10:21:13, Chessfun wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On October 04, 2000 at 10:15:50, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On October 04, 2000 at 01:45:57, Chessfun wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On October 04, 2000 at 00:35:34, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On October 03, 2000 at 20:46:43, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Err.. exactly _what_ program won't kick a GM at blitz? I have seen GNU do it. >>>>>>>>>>>I have seen everybody else do it too... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>This is hardly a distinguishing event. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Dr. Hyatt, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>You are correct. One game does not mean much. Gambit Tiger made it look so >>>>>>>>>>easy though and Mecking made some decent moves. We will see how good this >>>>>>>>>>program is within the next six months. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>The audience that will be buying these type of programs will be most amused by >>>>>>>>>>the style of play of Gambit Tiger. I am certain that you would enjoy it too. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Tim Frohlick >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Sorry, but for me you both miss the point. >>>>>>>>>The game is of interest not because this is a GM, >>>>>>>>>but who this GM is. It would be of interest to me >>>>>>>>>and others I'm sure regardless of the program or the result. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Thanks. >>>>>>>>>Sarah. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>So that game is more interesting than watching Shirov get smashed over and over >>>>>>>>on ICC? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Personally for me...yes. >>>>>>>Mecking IMO is equal to seeing games of Karpov or Kasparov >>>>>>>against computers. While I don't disagree that most programs >>>>>>>would smash GM's at these time controls.....there are some GM's >>>>>>>that have a certain legend to them. Mecking is IMO one Shirov is not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Sarah. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>We have a difference of opinion then. I consider Shirov _far_ stronger against >>>>>>programs. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I would say there are many GM's stronger than Mecking >>>>>at both OTB and against computers, but again that wasn't my point. >>>>> >>>>>Sarah. >>> >>> >>>>Mine neither. Simply that a program beating a single GM (and an old one at >>>>that) in one game is _not_ news. >>> >>>Who said it _was_ news. Is everything that's posted news. >>> >>>And it may simply be an old GM to you. >>>But to myself and many others it's not that simple. >>>This was Mecking.!! >>> >>>>Programs beat the best in the world at blitz >>>>all the time. ho hum is the usual response to winning a blitz game today. >>> >>>As you have already now said, three times. >>>I thought I had already agreed to that two posts ago. >>> >>>Sarah. >> >>Then do you get a kick out of posting "ho hum" non-news? > > >It is amazing how you make these statements. >What news did I post?...really I wish you would check _FACT_ >before posting. The start of this thread was "gambit tiger beat GM Mecking in one game, WOW". I responded that "that is _not_ anything new at all. Those are the "facts". > > >>Beating Mecking or _any_ other GM does not make a new program significant. >>Other than to note that it is very strong. But then again.... gnu is very >>strong using that metric. > > >It isn't a GM. Forget ratings and forget the title one minute. >Then think of the name of the player. If as you said this is >just an Old GM then ok for you maybe. But again for others >they want to see every game this Old GM ever plays. > >Sarah. Doesn't bother me at all. But beating mecking didn't make the point that the original post tried to make.
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