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Subject: Re: Moderation: Then you should have stopped it a lot earlier!!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:24:12 10/05/00

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On October 05, 2000 at 01:40:51, Ratko V Tomic wrote:

>> The complaints have started only recently.  I (for instance)
>> read only a fraction of the messages, and the topic for this
>> thread was totally uninteresting to me.
>
>Just because some little group behind scenes organizes
>email complainst, it doesn't mean they're right to complain.
>
>If accusation were left to stay and produce gigantic thread
>(nobody missed it, and nobody will buy that rationale), the
>accused should have a right to respond in the same open manner
>or the smear stands. Additionally, the whole issue is surely
>very interesting to all computer chess hobbysts or programmers.
>It is unbelievable story, a news event which will be quoted out of
>here.
>
>Computer chess isn't only about bitboards vs mailbox, you know. This
>is the world of computer chess, too. It is about world championship,
>events behind the scenes, very interesting to anyone on CCC.
>
>Frankly, I trust Marcuses Kaestner's explanation above much more
>than the original accusation, which didn't quite fit. Now, SMK is
>nice person, to some, obviously not to Marcus. Being a world champion,
>does not mean a person has impecabble character. Marcus is a
>regular person, loves computer chess as anyone knows from his writing
>and activity, a person of high integrity, speaking sincerely and his
>story rings more true to me, and I bet to many more. His English is
>less polished, but his version is more believable.
>
>
>Famous persons, or persons with great achievements, often have some
>strange streak. For example,  E. Schorodinger was a pedophile, molesting
>little girls throughut his life (like daughters of his friends), yet he
>was a first rate genius in physics, the real founder of Quantum theory.
>Newton was very unpleasant and mean to some, very nice to others. We also
>know that almost every human chess champion was a strange fellow, with
>strange character flaws (Fischer isn't the weirdest, I mean he is an
>antisemitic Jew). It takes often certain type of character and huge
>degree of drive and self-denial to pursue and achieve the world
>championship in anything. That doesn't go without a price to be pay.
>
>I don't know anything personally about SMK, other than from what he
>posts here. So none of historical patterns need apply to him. But if
>one is asked who to trust in this kind of dispute, I would put my money
>on a regular person much rather than on an ultra-achiever. Life 101.
>
>Just because few fans/groupies of the champ have emailed moderators
>(have they?) behind the scenes to kill the thread, doesn't mean they're
>right. Unless of course, moderators wish to have CCC become a 2-3 person
>mutual admiration society. CCC is what it is due to all of us here, not just
>couple primadonnas demanding right to offend and to kill the threads
>when the offended person replies. If moderators kill the Kaestner's
>thread, while leaving SMK's, I am signing out of here for good. Such
>unfairness would not be tolerable. And the rest of regular folks here
>might just do the same. Then let the moderators and their stars talk
>to each other, see how much fun that will be and how long it will go.
>They might as well shut down the outfit.


If you look carefully, you will see this didn't happen.  We tried to remove
all traces of the discussion.  I hope we succeeded.



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