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Subject: Re: And now about journalist mistakes, sheer nonsense and a farewell...

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 02:48:21 12/22/97

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>I am astounded at all the attacks. I guess a lot of
>people like to pull down anyone they see as in the public eye.

I am not astounded at all the attacks you got.
I think the people waited for a gap where they can attack you.
Why ? Hm. Because some people don't like you.
Whatever. Normally a "journalist" (and who knows who of us a journalist
is ? )
should take TIME for his job.
Whenever somebody tries to force you to REPORT fast and shallow, just
because of a deadline, don't do it.
Take your time. If you got a new software don't write an article unless
you have outplayed at least 20 games in 40/120 against ALL possible
computer-opponents, don't measure it's strength unless you have tested
it through all possible test-suites and have found out at least 2 or 3
OWN points yourself.
Make an interview with the programmer. Show him the article before you
release it and make sure it is printed in exactly the same way you wrote
it.
Don't accept censoring, cutting or the publishers wish to make some
things more impressive and others (maybe critics) less heavy !
Be honest and and give your best.
Nobody forces you to write garbage. I remember when I wrote an article
about the Super-Forte C a few years ago. I first had an impression that
this program was weaker than Super-Forte B.
But suddenly, after I had put out the EPROMS off the machine, I thought
again - got a suspicion WHAT Kittinger could have been done and put the
EPROMS again back into the machine and tested some suspicious positions.
AND BANG !
He had done exactly what I first oversaw.
And I rewrote the whole article and came to the conclusion that
Super-Forte C plays definetely stronger than Super-Forte B, although B
was a better tactician.

Writing articles takes time. Don't do it only at a week-end with 2 or 5
blitz-games. Thats nothing.

And be careful with fast shots.

A programmer needs months to program a new version. Take the same care
when testing the product.

Best wishes...


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>
>On December 21, 1997 at 23:07:03, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>
>>Hi all concerned:
>>Now that seems KK has received a severe mauling from many, including me,
>>it is time to put things in order. No Don, is not the "great journalist"
>>that is writting now, just a poor guy that feel himself ashamed and try
>>to fix a couple of things. So let me say this: the first thing to put in
>>order is to recall how many times we have done a big shit in this field,
>>not to mention in others a lot more important that "chess computers".
>>Heaven Father, I confess: not many time ago I wrote too early and
>>without enough information an article about Hiarcs 6 that was completely
>>wrong. And then, recently, I wrote another about MCP7 where, even If my
>>target was mostly the DOS platform, in some degree I hurted also Marty.
>>Should I recall more total or partial mistakes from my part of from
>>another people, including some of you out there? May I recall the harsh
>>expressions that have been said here because some people did not give to
>>themselves a bit more of time to ponder?
>>I know that saying all this I am showing a great side to "friendly"
>>fire. "First you shoot and then you pray for the victims", some can say.
>>Or they can say or just think "stupid". Well, I am one of them many
>>times. Most of the time, specially here. Yes, maybe something happens to
>>all us just coming here, to this site; then we forget our real lives as
>>pros or just human beings and we become children trying to do noise or
>>write something in the board to claim some attention. We want to be
>>here, to be part of this and then ocassionally we write a little bit in
>>a hurry. One day is KK, another day it's me, another day is anyone. The
>>first stone cannot be throwed by nobody. Shouldn't.
>>Even more, beyond the mistakes there is something very sad in all this,
>>you see, grown-ups behaving like children at least part of the time.
>>Maybe it happens that in front of a screen we forget that at the other
>>side there is a real human being. And it's so easy for educated people
>>to find poisonous words, sarcastics expressions, witty comments! So,
>>thinking in all that, thinking how many times I have enjoyed KK
>>articles, thinking in the support any one can get from him, anytime, for
>>FREE, thinking that he is like me, a guy that simply satisfy some part
>>of his ego doing all this here, I confess that I feel somewhat ashamed
>>that I was part of the bunch. If KK is reading this, I ask from him his
>>pardon: he -nobody- deserve so much attacks, reasonings, critics,
>>sarcasm and the rest just because he played too hard the role of a
>>journalist. That is nothing: many of us have performed too hard the role
>>of the guys with a rope, crying in excitment because a  poor fellow
>>would be hanged. At the end all of us perform ridiculous or childish
>>roles here, except perhaps the people that gets some money from this.
>>They are real and sometimes I imagine how they surely laugh. Yes, Ed is
>>also real, he win or lose money because of what is said, as Marty or
>>Chris. OK, so KK screw it  a little bit. Ok, not the big deal after all.
>>And now, free of all this, you can say what you want. Chris, you are
>>here the master of irony; I put my hopes in your comments. Don, push the
>>trigger. I don't care. Even If I had some reason in my comments from a
>>pure rational point of view, they were lacking of real and deep
>>understanding and a sane -or insane you could say, my masochist side,
>>etc- part of me want to be punished. It has been sad to realize that a
>>club of supposed friends begun to be a slaughterhouse as soon as
>>somebody fall. And more sad to realize how easily I have been pushed by
>>myself to do the same.
>>Good night all and good bye.
>>Fernando



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