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Subject: Re: Best game ever played by a computer

Author: Chessfun

Date: 18:59:56 10/06/00

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On October 06, 2000 at 14:27:00, Aaron Tay wrote:

>On October 06, 2000 at 14:18:43, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On October 06, 2000 at 13:58:28, Aaron Tay wrote:
>>
>>>On October 06, 2000 at 13:39:21, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 06, 2000 at 11:35:42, Aaron Tay wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 05, 2000 at 15:08:13, Harald Faber wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Of course played by .... Gambit-Tiger. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Enjoy it as much as I did!
>>>>>>(It was a game against an old Mephisto, but in spite of this, this game is most
>>>>>>outstanding I have ever seen)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[Event "Test Gambit Tiger 0.95"]
>>>>>>[Site ""]
>>>>>>[Date "2000.10.05"]
>>>>>>[Round ""]
>>>>>>[White "Gambit Tiger 0.95"]
>>>>>>[Black "Player"]
>>>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>>>[Opening "C47 Four Knights: Belgrade Gambit"]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.d4 exd4 5.Nd5 Nxe4 6.Qe2 f5 7.Ng5 d3 8.cxd3 Nd4
>>>>>>9.Qh5+ g6 10.Qh4 c6 11.Nc3 Nc2+ 12.Kd1 Nxa1 13.dxe4 Qf6 14.e5 Qxe5 15.Bc4 Be7
>>>>>>16.Re1 Qd6+ 17.Bd2 Qf6 18.Bf7+ Kd8 19.Rxe7 Kxe7 20.Nd5+ cxd5 21.Bb4+ d6 22.Bc3
>>>>>>Qxc3 23.bxc3 Kd7 24.Qd4 Rf8
>>>>>>25.Bxd5 Re8 26.Qg7+ Kd8 27.Bxb7 Bd7 28.Bxa8 h6 29.Nf7+ Kc7 30.Bd5 Re7 31.Qf6
>>>>>>Rxf7 32.Qxf7 Kd8 33.Qxg6 Kc7 34.c4 Ba4+ 35.Kd2 Bc6 36.c5 Bxd5 37.Qxd6+ Kc8
>>>>>>38.Qxd5 a5 39.Qf7 Nb3+ 40.axb3 Kd8 41.c6 a4 42.Qd7# 1-0
>>>>>
>>>>>Sigh more Tiger Gambit hype..How about a serious discussion? I would nominate
>>>>>the 2nd Deep blue game vers Kasparov in 1997, but because it allowed a possible
>>>>>draw, the game wasn't perfect?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Maybe people prefer to talk about Gambit Tiger because they know they can run >it on their own PC? You can't do that with Deep Blue...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>    Christophe
>>>
>>>No offence, but i have this feeling that this Gambit hype is beginning to feel a little (not much but a little) like those CM postings except that this time the personality is a Tiger one..
>
>
>>This isn't a personality it is an actual engine.
>
>
>Semantics. It's a variation of Tiger.


I think not. Not when those CM postings were at issue due to the personality
settings and as noted this is an actual engine.

>
>>>Firstly the misleading title..I didn't look at the game but surely you don't
>>>think the game posted above is really the "best game ever played by a computer"?

>>>Espically against a unknown opponent simply titled "player"
>
>
>>The post was specific as to who player is it's an old mephisto.
>
>You are right, I just glanced at the player..But my point still holds.
>How can this be considered the best game ever?


The posters opinion can be that it was, as can others share that opinion.
I don't really think you have a point unless you at least play through
the game.


>>>Secondly, the need to report every single "amazing" win against GM..
>>
>>
>>GM? Mephisto is a computer.
>
>I was refering here to the Mecking game..


As far as I'm aware there was only that single game posted of Tiger beating
a GM, so every single "amazing" win don't really hold.


>>>I have no doubt that the new Tiger gambit personality will be amazing, and the
>>>posting has not reached the level of the Daniel's level yet by far, but it >>will get more irriating if this continues..
>
>
>>To me as long as it's on topic, I don't see the issue.
>
>Okay. But i don't really like misleading subjects..And this thread  is
>definitely misleading..


But again how can you even say that without playing through the game
and maybe saying why it isn't?.


>After all , the thread about CM testing started because of a misleading subject,
>and we don't want to be biased here don't we?


In the posters opinion this could be the best game ever played by a computer.
Does that mean the poster was biased?

The difference was the other thread didn't specify that it was a human game
as opposed to a CM tourney.

Sarah.






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