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Subject: More information + a couple of diagrams

Author: Peter McKenzie

Date: 12:16:17 10/07/00

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The position where the solution is most in doubt:

[D]2k2K2/8/pp6/2p5/2P5/PP6/8/8 w - -

The authors say that after 1.Ke8 Kc7 2.Ke7, black draws by 2...b5 with a
stalemate motif after 3.Ke6 b4 4.a4 Kb6.

Of course white can vary, and they quote: 4.axb4 cxb4 5.Kd5 a5 6.Kc5 a4=

Or: 2.a4 b5 which is supposed to be drawn too.

I haven't checked these lines thoroughly, but quickly playing some of them vs my
program suggests they are probably correct.  Certainly its possible there is a
mistake though.

The other controversial positon:

[D]8/1k6/p4p2/2p2P2/p1P2P2/2P5/P1K5/8 w - -

Kc1 is analysed using the 'theory of corresponding squares', something I don't
really understand :-)  I haven't analysed this one at all, I will just quote the
main variation:

1.Kc1! Kc7 2.Kd1! Kd7 3.Ke1 Kc7 4.Kf2 Kd8 5.Ke2 Ke8 6.Kd3 Kd7 7.Ke3 Kd6 8.Ke4
"(forcing the pawn to advance)" a3 9.Kd3 a5 10.Kc2! a4 "The posiiton on the
Q-side is blocked; a quadratic system with non-ambiguous rear (711) now
operates."  Go figure!  11.Kc2! Ke7 12.Kd3 Kc6 13.Ke2 Kd6 14.Kf2 Kd7 15.Ke3 Ke7
16.Kf3 and wins

I didn't play thru. that variation, but clearly its at least 31ply and white
hasn't even captured a pawn yet!  Let me see, finished with white K on f3, so it
needs another 3 moves at the very least to capture c5 so this problem looks like
it is at the VERY least 34ply deep and probably more.

cheers,
Peter



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