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Subject: Re: Moderation issue: Seirawan lost to Benjamin, loses lead with ...

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 06:49:51 10/08/00

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On October 08, 2000 at 04:58:50, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On October 07, 2000 at 22:53:20, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On October 07, 2000 at 02:20:09, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>On October 06, 2000 at 23:05:22, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 06, 2000 at 11:29:46, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 06, 2000 at 10:47:36, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On October 06, 2000 at 00:12:07, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On October 05, 2000 at 22:36:38, Daniel Chancey wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Castle2000
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>OK, this is getting crazy.  We have people running world cups and we have
>>>>>>>grandmasters playing games, only it's all taking place between two computers in
>>>>>>>someone's basement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It is like watching the news and the lead-off headline is about a gigantic naval
>>>>>>>battle, and you find out after sitting through three commercials (internet lag
>>>>>>>to load the page) that the naval battle took place in some kid's bath tub.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't know what should be done about this, but this is annoying and I hope
>>>>>>>that something can be worked out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Perhaps these kind of posts can be prefaced with "CM:" or something, so those
>>>>>>>who couldn't care less could skip them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>bruce
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I agree.  The subject has to be better defined.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Please stop with the current approach.
>>>>>
>>>>>Is this a moderator issue? As much as I dislike the CM personalities
>>>>>issues (there is hardly any interest for me), isn't this forum for
>>>>>everybody?
>>>>>
>>>>>Ed
>>>>
>>>>It is a moderator issue when we get emails complaining about the subjects,
>>>
>>>Then as a moderator you could also answer that on CCC we have free speech.
>>>
>>
>>Free speech within bounds.  I don't agree with dramatic subject lines that
>>are misleading.  I think it is perfectly within reason to expect that members
>>choose a reasonable subject line so that others can decide whether or not to
>>read the thread without having to first read each post to see if you want to
>>read the posts.  Bruce's comment about "World Cup" was right on target.
>>
>>I don't mind the posts.  I would simply like to see the subject line reflect
>>the true content.  And get off the "world cup" and the like nonsense.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>and when the threads here also have complaints about the subjects.  I don't
>>>>mind the chessmaster threads, as I said during moderator elections.  But I
>>>>don't like "world cup underway".  A person can't hold a "world cup" event.
>>>
>>>Fine with me as long as you say that as a CCC member.
>>
>>
>>I believe that this falls under the moderator job description.  Or should
>>we simply have Tim delete the subject line option so that you can't tell
>>what is in _any_ post without reading it?  I like the subject title.  But
>>only if it is _really_ the subject.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>So the subject matter is fine.  I would just like to see more "truth in
>>>>subject lines".  IE "world championship delayed as fischer is in two groups"
>>>>is way over the top.
>>>
>>>I agree but I got the impression you gave your opinion as a moderator.
>>>
>>>Ed
>>>
>>
>>I did.  Complaints from users (more than one) brought this up.  I happened
>>to agree and asked that it be 'fixed'.
>>
>>Otherwise we will be up to our armpits in world championships, world cups,
>>international championships...  and they will all be played in somebody's
>>basement on one computer.  And have nothing to do with the real WMCCC or WCCC
>>events.
>>
>>Most recognize two WC events related to computers.  faking up more is simply
>>confusing/misleading/aggravating.
>
>Moderation on a confusing header-line. I can't find it in the CCC
>charter. You?
>
>Ed
>



Ever seen a law about driving a little erratically?  Yet a police officer
will stop a car to see why and suggest a little more caution.  What if someone
posts an article "Rebel clobbered by Shredder in world cup match".  When you
read it you discover it is just another personality tournament with a "rebel"
personality in chessmaster and a "shredder" personality as well.  And the world
cup was played in a basement.

Do you think new readers would be a bit confused?  A _lot_ confused?  Isn't it
more reasonable to simply avoid sensationalism for basement tournaments.  When
several have said that it is misleading?




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>
>
>>>>IMHO.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>You can't hold a "world cup" event.  Nor is Yasser playing Joel,
>>>>>>as your subject suggests.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Please try to find a more informative subject with the word "chessmaster" or
>>>>>>whatever included... rather than posting spectacular subjects that are
>>>>>>misleading at best.



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