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Subject: Re: Moderation issue: Seirawan lost to Benjamin, loses lead with ...

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 16:22:57 10/08/00

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On October 08, 2000 at 18:02:15, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>On October 08, 2000 at 11:39:42, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>On October 08, 2000 at 09:49:51, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On October 08, 2000 at 04:58:50, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 07, 2000 at 22:53:20, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 07, 2000 at 02:20:09, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On October 06, 2000 at 23:05:22, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On October 06, 2000 at 11:29:46, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On October 06, 2000 at 10:47:36, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On October 06, 2000 at 00:12:07, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On October 05, 2000 at 22:36:38, Daniel Chancey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Castle2000
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>OK, this is getting crazy.  We have people running world cups and we have
>>>>>>>>>>grandmasters playing games, only it's all taking place between two computers in
>>>>>>>>>>someone's basement.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It is like watching the news and the lead-off headline is about a gigantic naval
>>>>>>>>>>battle, and you find out after sitting through three commercials (internet lag
>>>>>>>>>>to load the page) that the naval battle took place in some kid's bath tub.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I don't know what should be done about this, but this is annoying and I hope
>>>>>>>>>>that something can be worked out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Perhaps these kind of posts can be prefaced with "CM:" or something, so those
>>>>>>>>>>who couldn't care less could skip them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>bruce
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I agree.  The subject has to be better defined.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Please stop with the current approach.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is this a moderator issue? As much as I dislike the CM personalities
>>>>>>>>issues (there is hardly any interest for me), isn't this forum for
>>>>>>>>everybody?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It is a moderator issue when we get emails complaining about the subjects,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Then as a moderator you could also answer that on CCC we have free speech.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Free speech within bounds.  I don't agree with dramatic subject lines that
>>>>>are misleading.  I think it is perfectly within reason to expect that members
>>>>>choose a reasonable subject line so that others can decide whether or not to
>>>>>read the thread without having to first read each post to see if you want to
>>>>>read the posts.  Bruce's comment about "World Cup" was right on target.
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't mind the posts.  I would simply like to see the subject line reflect
>>>>>the true content.  And get off the "world cup" and the like nonsense.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>and when the threads here also have complaints about the subjects.  I don't
>>>>>>>mind the chessmaster threads, as I said during moderator elections.  But I
>>>>>>>don't like "world cup underway".  A person can't hold a "world cup" event.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Fine with me as long as you say that as a CCC member.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I believe that this falls under the moderator job description.  Or should
>>>>>we simply have Tim delete the subject line option so that you can't tell
>>>>>what is in _any_ post without reading it?  I like the subject title.  But
>>>>>only if it is _really_ the subject.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So the subject matter is fine.  I would just like to see more "truth in
>>>>>>>subject lines".  IE "world championship delayed as fischer is in two groups"
>>>>>>>is way over the top.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I agree but I got the impression you gave your opinion as a moderator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I did.  Complaints from users (more than one) brought this up.  I happened
>>>>>to agree and asked that it be 'fixed'.
>>>>>
>>>>>Otherwise we will be up to our armpits in world championships, world cups,
>>>>>international championships...  and they will all be played in somebody's
>>>>>basement on one computer.  And have nothing to do with the real WMCCC or WCCC
>>>>>events.
>>>>>
>>>>>Most recognize two WC events related to computers.  faking up more is simply
>>>>>confusing/misleading/aggravating.
>>>>
>>>>Moderation on a confusing header-line. I can't find it in the CCC
>>>>charter. You?
>>>>
>>>>Ed
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Ever seen a law about driving a little erratically?  Yet a police officer
>>>will stop a car to see why and suggest a little more caution.  What if someone
>>>posts an article "Rebel clobbered by Shredder in world cup match".  When you
>>>read it you discover it is just another personality tournament with a "rebel"
>>>personality in chessmaster and a "shredder" personality as well.  And the world
>>>cup was played in a basement.
>>
>>Peanuts...
>>
>>>Do you think new readers would be a bit confused?  A _lot_ confused?  Isn't it
>>>more reasonable to simply avoid sensationalism for basement tournaments.  When
>>>several have said that it is misleading?
>>
>>Paenuts too.
>>
>>You are making CCC a kindergarten....
>>
>>There was absolute no need for the moderators to interfere. Remember the
>>occasion when you was subject to moderation? How did it feel? That's what
>>you are doing each time you interfere so it better should be big when you
>>decide to speak as a moderator using your power, because that is the
>>position you have as an elected moderator.
>>
>>Some people got annoyed about the confusing headers, they expressed their
>>feelngs in public, case solved. It's called adult behavior.
>>
>>
>>Ed
>
>You need to run for the job next time.  You are well-known and well-respected
>enough, and you are willing enough to speak out on moderation topics, that you
>should have the experience of doing it.
>
>bruce

I am just concerned...

Ed



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