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Subject: Re: move in *zero* seconds?

Author: Oliver Roese

Date: 21:42:38 10/08/00

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On October 08, 2000 at 22:14:45, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On October 08, 2000 at 12:32:27, Oliver Roese wrote:
>
>>On October 08, 2000 at 09:35:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On October 08, 2000 at 09:28:44, Mike S. wrote:
>>>
>>>>Should programs be able, or be allowed, to move in *zero* seconds of thinking
>>>>time?
>>>>
>>>>I don't think so (except when the pondering prepared for an opponent's move
>>>>which is actually played), but I'd like to hear what others, especially blitz
>>>>players or users who have programs play blitz/lightning at servers, think about
>>>>this. Is it fair, to make series of moves in zero seconds?
>>>>
>>>>Probably, long sequences of very low quality moves in engine matches could be
>>>>avoided also, by forcing a minimum of 1 second (i.e. as a common standard in
>>>>computer chess programs).
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>M.Scheidl
>>>
>>>Programs only move in zero seconds in three cases that I know of.
>>>
>>>1.  book move.  The assumption is that someone/something has already spent
>>>a lot of time in choosing these moves.
>>>
>>>2.  forced move (only legal move).  There is no reason to search at all if
>>>you have no choice, legally.
>>>
>>>3.  Pondering.  These moves are not really made in zero seconds.  It just so
>>>happens that all the calculation was done while waiting on the opponent.
>>>
>>>Humans do exactly the same thing.  I have seen them make several 0-second moves
>>>in a row.  I am not sure why you think this is a problem?
>>
>>He.
>>It _is_ a problem.
>>If you dont think so, let me play a reasonable amount of games with 2 12
>>controls and i am happy to expect some win of ratingpoints.
>>Thank you.
>>
>>
>>Oliver
>
>
>I'll be more than happy to let you try.  Just tell me when, what handle you
>will be using, and which server you want to play on.

I accept your challenge.
My timezone is europe/berlin, which is currently = GMT + 2.
I am best available on saturday or sunday or if that not fits after 17:00, my
timezone.
My handle on fics is "roese".
I would suggest 4 games with 2 12 controls.
I expect to loose most of them, but hope to win a few ratingpoints nevertheless.

Oliver








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