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Subject: Re: few more thinks to note...

Author: pavel

Date: 02:11:55 10/09/00

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On October 09, 2000 at 05:02:08, Jouni Uski wrote:

>On October 09, 2000 at 04:46:01, pavel wrote:
>
>>On October 09, 2000 at 02:16:49, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>
>>>1. Gandalf is not any blitz player. Even if first Nunn match (60/5) against
>>>Fritz ended 9-11, next try gives 4-16!
>>>2. Please note, that when You stop/end Gandalf under Chessbase GUI or Winboard
>>>it sometimes remains in memory taking a lot of CPU power! I have also seen
>>>same behaviour with Goliath winboard version. For serious testing please reboot
>>>or check with wintop CPU use...
>>>
>>>Jouni
>>
>>
>>lets not even go to fritz6a, just yet...
>>
>>IMO gandalf 4.32f is not even 'better' than the,
>>"best -freeware- winboard engine"
>>
>>I can kick myself for buying it only by listening to the reviews of
>>beta-testers.. :(   $30 bucks down the drain.
>>
>>I would certainly not recommend anyone to buy it, well, if you want to collect
>>chess program than thats something else.
>>
>>it gets completely smacked-down by nimzo2000b, and top programs like crafty and
>>yace under winboard.
>>
>>_I_would rate it atleast 50elo less than crafty-yace (assuming they are in same
>>level).
>>
>>as jauni said its not a blitz player....TRUE, also its not a standard time
>>control player either :( (to the top level)
>>
>>I have bought so many chess engines, till now, but I have never been so much
>>dissapointed with a chess programs playing strength as opposed to expectations.
>>
>>maybe my expectations were too high,  :)
>>
>>and finally pls dont insult fritz6a by comparing gandalf to it.
>>thats the worst thing anyone could do..
>>
>>Pavel
>
>After one week testing I cannot give final verdict. But in test suites it is
>very good. In BT2630 it solves 29/30! In LCTII it gets 2685 rating in my AMD
>450MHz!! Hmm... It's probably tuned (may be unintentionally) to that test, to be
>honest...
>
>Jouni

it might as well be tuned (intentionally or unintentionally). Though IMO being
better in test suites doesnt necessary mean being better in game play, a better
suggestion is to test it with test positions which are not publicly available
such as the "enriques secret test suite", thoughI have no idea about how
dependable that test suite is, :)

anyways, i still think this program is nowhere near the top chess programs ...

did you find any impressive results other that "test suites"?

Pavel



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