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Subject: Re: few more thinks to note...

Author: Jouni Uski

Date: 02:26:29 10/09/00

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On October 09, 2000 at 05:11:55, pavel wrote:

>On October 09, 2000 at 05:02:08, Jouni Uski wrote:
>
>>On October 09, 2000 at 04:46:01, pavel wrote:
>>
>>>On October 09, 2000 at 02:16:49, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>
>>>>1. Gandalf is not any blitz player. Even if first Nunn match (60/5) against
>>>>Fritz ended 9-11, next try gives 4-16!
>>>>2. Please note, that when You stop/end Gandalf under Chessbase GUI or Winboard
>>>>it sometimes remains in memory taking a lot of CPU power! I have also seen
>>>>same behaviour with Goliath winboard version. For serious testing please reboot
>>>>or check with wintop CPU use...
>>>>
>>>>Jouni
>>>
>>>
>>>lets not even go to fritz6a, just yet...
>>>
>>>IMO gandalf 4.32f is not even 'better' than the,
>>>"best -freeware- winboard engine"
>>>
>>>I can kick myself for buying it only by listening to the reviews of
>>>beta-testers.. :(   $30 bucks down the drain.
>>>
>>>I would certainly not recommend anyone to buy it, well, if you want to collect
>>>chess program than thats something else.
>>>
>>>it gets completely smacked-down by nimzo2000b, and top programs like crafty and
>>>yace under winboard.
>>>
>>>_I_would rate it atleast 50elo less than crafty-yace (assuming they are in same
>>>level).
>>>
>>>as jauni said its not a blitz player....TRUE, also its not a standard time
>>>control player either :( (to the top level)
>>>
>>>I have bought so many chess engines, till now, but I have never been so much
>>>dissapointed with a chess programs playing strength as opposed to expectations.
>>>
>>>maybe my expectations were too high,  :)
>>>
>>>and finally pls dont insult fritz6a by comparing gandalf to it.
>>>thats the worst thing anyone could do..
>>>
>>>Pavel
>>
>>After one week testing I cannot give final verdict. But in test suites it is
>>very good. In BT2630 it solves 29/30! In LCTII it gets 2685 rating in my AMD
>>450MHz!! Hmm... It's probably tuned (may be unintentionally) to that test, to be
>>honest...
>>
>>Jouni
>
>it might as well be tuned (intentionally or unintentionally). Though IMO being
>better in test suites doesnt necessary mean being better in game play, a better
>suggestion is to test it with test positions which are not publicly available
>such as the "enriques secret test suite", thoughI have no idea about how
>dependable that test suite is, :)
>
>anyways, i still think this program is nowhere near the top chess programs ...
>
>did you find any impressive results other that "test suites"?
>
>Pavel

In my AMD 450 Gandalf played 60/5 blitz quite good. In Nunn test it won
Crafty17.10 11-9 and draw Goliath Light 10-10. Not bad results at all.

Jouni




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