Author: pavel
Date: 02:48:35 10/09/00
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On October 09, 2000 at 05:26:29, Jouni Uski wrote: >On October 09, 2000 at 05:11:55, pavel wrote: > >>On October 09, 2000 at 05:02:08, Jouni Uski wrote: >> >>>On October 09, 2000 at 04:46:01, pavel wrote: >>> >>>>On October 09, 2000 at 02:16:49, Jouni Uski wrote: >>>> >>>>>1. Gandalf is not any blitz player. Even if first Nunn match (60/5) against >>>>>Fritz ended 9-11, next try gives 4-16! >>>>>2. Please note, that when You stop/end Gandalf under Chessbase GUI or Winboard >>>>>it sometimes remains in memory taking a lot of CPU power! I have also seen >>>>>same behaviour with Goliath winboard version. For serious testing please reboot >>>>>or check with wintop CPU use... >>>>> >>>>>Jouni >>>> >>>> >>>>lets not even go to fritz6a, just yet... >>>> >>>>IMO gandalf 4.32f is not even 'better' than the, >>>>"best -freeware- winboard engine" >>>> >>>>I can kick myself for buying it only by listening to the reviews of >>>>beta-testers.. :( $30 bucks down the drain. >>>> >>>>I would certainly not recommend anyone to buy it, well, if you want to collect >>>>chess program than thats something else. >>>> >>>>it gets completely smacked-down by nimzo2000b, and top programs like crafty and >>>>yace under winboard. >>>> >>>>_I_would rate it atleast 50elo less than crafty-yace (assuming they are in same >>>>level). >>>> >>>>as jauni said its not a blitz player....TRUE, also its not a standard time >>>>control player either :( (to the top level) >>>> >>>>I have bought so many chess engines, till now, but I have never been so much >>>>dissapointed with a chess programs playing strength as opposed to expectations. >>>> >>>>maybe my expectations were too high, :) >>>> >>>>and finally pls dont insult fritz6a by comparing gandalf to it. >>>>thats the worst thing anyone could do.. >>>> >>>>Pavel >>> >>>After one week testing I cannot give final verdict. But in test suites it is >>>very good. In BT2630 it solves 29/30! In LCTII it gets 2685 rating in my AMD >>>450MHz!! Hmm... It's probably tuned (may be unintentionally) to that test, to be >>>honest... >>> >>>Jouni >> >>it might as well be tuned (intentionally or unintentionally). Though IMO being >>better in test suites doesnt necessary mean being better in game play, a better >>suggestion is to test it with test positions which are not publicly available >>such as the "enriques secret test suite", thoughI have no idea about how >>dependable that test suite is, :) >> >>anyways, i still think this program is nowhere near the top chess programs ... >> >>did you find any impressive results other that "test suites"? >> >>Pavel > >In my AMD 450 Gandalf played 60/5 blitz quite good. In Nunn test it won >Crafty17.10 11-9 and draw Goliath Light 10-10. Not bad results at all. > >Jouni this is what I get in pentium II 400 15 min per side 3) gandalf : 29 (+ 6,= 2,- 21), 24.1 % wbnimzo2000b : 20 (+ 2,= 2,- 16), 15.0 % anmon : 4 (+ 2,= 0,- 2), 50.0 % yace : 5 (+ 2,= 0,- 3), 40.0 % one thing (and probably the only thing) I liked about this program that it understand drawn position better than most other programs that I tried, well this is my impression with limeted game testings, the book seems to be OK. lets see what happens with more games, keep me informed, thanks Pavel
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