Author: Oliver Roese
Date: 08:19:18 10/09/00
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On October 09, 2000 at 10:06:35, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On October 09, 2000 at 00:42:38, Oliver Roese wrote: > >>On October 08, 2000 at 22:14:45, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On October 08, 2000 at 12:32:27, Oliver Roese wrote: >>> >>>>On October 08, 2000 at 09:35:04, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On October 08, 2000 at 09:28:44, Mike S. wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Should programs be able, or be allowed, to move in *zero* seconds of thinking >>>>>>time? >>>>>> >>>>>>I don't think so (except when the pondering prepared for an opponent's move >>>>>>which is actually played), but I'd like to hear what others, especially blitz >>>>>>players or users who have programs play blitz/lightning at servers, think about >>>>>>this. Is it fair, to make series of moves in zero seconds? >>>>>> >>>>>>Probably, long sequences of very low quality moves in engine matches could be >>>>>>avoided also, by forcing a minimum of 1 second (i.e. as a common standard in >>>>>>computer chess programs). >>>>>> >>>>>>Thanks, >>>>>>M.Scheidl >>>>> >>>>>Programs only move in zero seconds in three cases that I know of. >>>>> >>>>>1. book move. The assumption is that someone/something has already spent >>>>>a lot of time in choosing these moves. >>>>> >>>>>2. forced move (only legal move). There is no reason to search at all if >>>>>you have no choice, legally. >>>>> >>>>>3. Pondering. These moves are not really made in zero seconds. It just so >>>>>happens that all the calculation was done while waiting on the opponent. >>>>> >>>>>Humans do exactly the same thing. I have seen them make several 0-second moves >>>>>in a row. I am not sure why you think this is a problem? >>>> >>>>He. >>>>It _is_ a problem. >>>>If you dont think so, let me play a reasonable amount of games with 2 12 >>>>controls and i am happy to expect some win of ratingpoints. >>>>Thank you. >>>> >>>> >>>>Oliver >>> >>> >>>I'll be more than happy to let you try. Just tell me when, what handle you >>>will be using, and which server you want to play on. >> >>I accept your challenge. >>My timezone is europe/berlin, which is currently = GMT + 2. >>I am best available on saturday or sunday or if that not fits after 17:00, my >>timezone. >>My handle on fics is "roese". >>I would suggest 4 games with 2 12 controls. >>I expect to loose most of them, but hope to win a few ratingpoints nevertheless. >> >>Oliver > > >For this Saturday, it will have to be late, US time. As I have mentioned >previously, my daughter is getting married this Saturday, 5PM CST, at my >house. We will be tied up well beyond that. I will probably be on late >Saturday, or perhaps around 9PM on Sunday evening... Best wishes and a lucky future to your daughter! Keep in mind, that i dont intend to hurt anyone. If i did, i apologize for it. Oliver
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