Author: Frank Quisinsky
Date: 08:57:00 10/09/00
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On October 09, 2000 at 07:06:41, pavel wrote: >On October 09, 2000 at 06:30:32, Francesco Di Tolla wrote: > >>On October 09, 2000 at 05:48:35, pavel wrote: >>>3) gandalf : 29 (+ 6,= 2,- 21), 24.1 % >>> >>>wbnimzo2000b : 20 (+ 2,= 2,- 16), 15.0 % >>>anmon : 4 (+ 2,= 0,- 2), 50.0 % >>>yace : 5 (+ 2,= 0,- 3), 40.0 % >> >>not an impressive test, from the point of view of statitical relevance. >>I guess that this mostly tells us that for sure gandalf does not like nizmo >>play. This does prove little on the true strength in my oininon. >> >>regards >>Franz > >actually the whole idea of playing more games against nimzo was that, >before the release of gandalf they posted rather very impressive results of >gandalf against nimzo (6-1 for gandalf twice), that gave us an impression that >gandalf is significantly better than nimzo, and comparable with fritz6a >(according to the beta-testers). >I couldnt reproduce such result... > >though I too believe games against other programs is necessary to draw any kinda >conclusion or even have a "good guess". > >but I have gone through most of the games, couldnt find anything that might led >to "gandalf not liking nimzo style of play", > >one thing for sure, it doesnt like short time control games ;) > >Pavel Hi, a rating list with blitz games can be found on the webpage by Andreas Herrmann. Andreas played with WinBoard Engines. I think that Fritz is in Blitz 50 ELO better then Gandalf but not on longer time controls. Gandalf have a lot of chess knowledge and it is not a Blitz program. I have a lot of Gandalf results from different people, also my CCE results. Clear is, that Gandalf played in my opinion the best middelgame what I saw, is for analyses the best program and is one of the best 5 available programs. I can not more make as to added games on my webpage or test results in the readme files. The problem is the endgame. Gandalf played not bad in endgame but I think other commercial programs are a little bit better. So we have a new TOP program with played in my opinion the best king attacks and fantastic combinations in middelgame. When you have interest on Blitz games I think it is better to play with LGoliath or Fritz (Fritz is also good for games with longer time controls). I have no interest on Blitz games. OK, I played also Gandalf test games with Blitz time controls but only for the beta test. I mean for a test to check different time controls under Chess-Base GUIs. Gandalf played perfect with the WinBoard adapter under Chess-Base GUIs. Best Frank
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