Author: Thomas Lagershausen
Date: 15:53:09 10/09/00
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On October 09, 2000 at 15:03:49, Jorge Pichard wrote: >On October 09, 2000 at 14:44:13, Jorge Pichard wrote: > >>On October 09, 2000 at 11:52:32, Peter Skinner wrote: >> >>>On October 09, 2000 at 11:41:08, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >>> >>>>On October 09, 2000 at 11:05:33, Johan Havegheer wrote: >>>> >>>>>On October 09, 2000 at 10:06:41, Thorsten Czub wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On October 09, 2000 at 09:56:37, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Please don't get me wrong, I admire Christophe programs and think very high of >>>>>>>his progamming skills, but against this group of programs, I would have to place >>>>>>>Tiger either 2nd or 3rd, but my favorite to win the overall match is >>>>>>>Nimzo 8. >>>>>> >>>>>>Nimzo ??? this will be interesting. they had to play before again... >>>>>>now new versions. >>>>>>when is the event ? >>>>> >>>>>Starts next weekend (14-15 oktober and 21-22 oktober) >>>>>Also Bart Weststraete is back with a new version of Kallisto. >>>>>I think Fritz, Nimzo and Chess Tiger are the favorites. >>> >>>I can see Fritz and Tiger being labelled as a favorite, but Nimzo 8's only real >>>test in competition was the WCCC and it feel flat on it's face. I love the Nimzo >>>programs, but really it didn't do well there, and I do not expect to see it do >>>well here. >>> >>>ChessTiger is playing unbelieveably well, ans as a beta tester, I know the raw >>>power that comes from it. I would have to say it is extremely stronger than the >>>version 12.0e that was out last year, and took #1 on the SSDF list. Tiger II >>>version 13.0 is incredible. >>> >>>My point was proven as I am running it on a PIII 450 and I easily beat 1Ghz >>>machines all the time, and actually up until last night was _undefeated_ on >>>Chess.net after almost 150 games. >>> >>>I am in the top 5 on FICS with it. >>> >>>Look at Species(C) on FICS, or Webkikr(C) on Chess.net to see how well it is >>>doing. >>> >>Testing Tiger at a fast time control vs other programs and at normal time >>control are two separate issues all together, when you mentioned that both >>accounts are doing well are you saying that with one account you are playing at >>a standard time control vs other programs and humans as well? >> >>Pichard. >> n >>>Both accounts are doing very well. >>> >>>I would have to say that Tiger will win. Fritz is a possibility as well, but my >>>money is on Tiger. At the final roar, I think Tiger will be champ. > >There is one disadvantage of showing too many games either by testing the >beta version of Tiger in the CCC or by playing at the FICS Species (C) or >Chess.net Webkikr (C). The other programmers are constantly collecting Games >Weakness of the program being tested as a beta version in this case the Tiger >Beta tester are showing too many games. You don't see the beta testers of Quest >or the King program other than CM8000 which is totally a different program and >it plays different than the commercial Chessmaster or Beta version of CM8000, >furthermore, there has not been too many games shown of the new version of >Nimzo 8, which to my judgement did very good except for a minor bug which has >been debugged as far as I know. Just wait for the surprise of those programs >that are not showing their weakness by their beta testers posting the majority >of their tested games > > >Pichard. How do want to profit from this games? Chess is to complicated and chessprograms do not understand like Kasparov their opponents.
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