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Subject: Re: Rebel 11 Package: Price, for God sake...

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 03:17:51 10/11/00

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On October 11, 2000 at 06:11:57, Jason Williamson wrote:

>On October 11, 2000 at 02:04:08, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On October 11, 2000 at 00:12:03, Ratko V Tomic wrote:
>>
>>>> On the REBEL 11 CD you have:
>>>>  * Rebel Century 3.0 (DOS)
>>>>  * Chess Tiger 13.0 (Windows)
>>>>  * Gambit Tiger 1.0 (Windows)
>>>>  * Rebel as an analysis engine for Chess Tiger and Gambit Tiger (Windows)
>>>>
>>>> This is the first time ever a native Windows Rebel engine is released.
>>>
>>>Now that the hard part of the work in porting Rebel engine to Win32 is done, why
>>>not postpone the release a month or so and make it play a real game as Win32
>>>app, instead of just using it for analysis? Switching to the stand-alone DOS is
>>>a time consuming, sometimes flakey process under Win32 (the system sometimes
>>>won't boot back to Windows), while running it in a DOS box inside Windows, with
>>>Windows using up half the RAM and wasting CPU cycles on virtualizing all the
>>>hardware of the DOS box, is not the quite the same thing (to say nothing of the
>>>low res DOS graphics and DOS mouse support; once you get spoiled with CB/Fritz
>>>UI, it's hard to go back and play in DOS mode any more).
>>
>>
>>
>>No, this argument does not work: with a dedicated Windows engine like
>>Rebel-Tiger or Fritz, you also have Windows taking a lot of RAM and stealing CPU
>>cycles.
>>
>>The ONLY problem of being a DOS program is related to GUI issues, not playing
>>strength.
>>
>
>That assumes that the user is going into dos-mode rather then using a dos window
>in the windows GUI.  Did you guys consider that as far as I know, there isn't a
>dos mode in Windows ME?  How about running under win2k?  Again, a dos window
>correct?
>
>Shame about the Rebel Centrury running as a dos program, but I may still pick up
>the package due to the tiger programs.
>
>JW

Rebel Century runs in a DOS window too. I have no problems at all running
Century under W98, ME and W2000, with anything up to 200MB hashtables on my
256MB machines.

Enrique



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