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Subject: Re: Is Wild 5 a forced win for white?

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 16:32:22 10/12/00

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On October 11, 2000 at 22:15:23, Daniel Chancey wrote:

>NM DragonSlayr from chess.net claims that white has a forced win in the
>beginning of a wild 5 game.  Wild 5 is the original setup of pieces, but the
>pawns are 1 square away from queening and the pieces are in front of the pawns!
>
>I'm not sure if Computers can be accurate to disprove DragonSlayr's claim.  Is
>Wild 5 a win for white?
>
>Castle2000

the openingsadvantage is real huge. if i let diep search parallel
about an hour at the position then the score rises and rises and rises
from +1.x initially to +5.x after an hour. i can't imagine this game
is NOT won for white easily. You can directly get a huge openings
advantage. obviously 2 queens against 1 queen is a simple win and
exactly that is what you can achieve there. Now the problem is that
the branching factor gets quite huge after a few moves as queen moves
are there plenty, so you can't give 'scientific' proof that you win
easily. But a queen versus a rook already in evaluation up after a
few ply of search in the start position?

that's clearly a game which is won by white yeah.



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