Author: Mogens Larsen
Date: 02:27:08 10/13/00
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On October 12, 2000 at 23:11:36, Peter Skinner wrote: >Since I am a beta tester of the Rebel package, I can tell you that there are 4 >extremely strong engines that you would be purchasing. > >I am a big fan of the Tiger engines, as they are incredibly strong, and the fact >they play automated over the internet without an adapter. This is a strong >selling point. They also leave a very small footprint on your hard drive, which >I like. > >Gambit Tiger is very strong, and a very strong attacker. I would estimate Gambit >Tiger is about 30-40 elo lower than normal Chess Tiger. > >Chess Tiger was once #1 on the SSDF, and I have a very strong feeling it is >going to return there. Even with the release of Fritz 7 expected, I am afraid >that Tiger will reign. It has enormous strength at all time controls, from 0 1 >matches to 40/2 matches. What more would you expect from a top notch chess >program. > >With Rebel, once again you are getting as extremely good tactical monster, and >Rebel 3.0 plays positional very well. In testing with Auto 232 vs Hiarcs, it >scored 78.9% ( Computed with elostat ), and we all know that Hiarcs is very good >positionally. In matches with Fritz 6b, it scored 61.8%. So both results are >huge in the sense of strength. > >So really it is a complete package. Some are going to say that with none of the >engines not using tablebases, that they are not going to compete. My tests >online at FICS, and Chess.net prove other wise. > >Look at FICS, for my Species(C) account, and you can see on wimpy hardware by >today's computer chess standards, it is rank very high, and has played the best >FICS has to offer, and exeeded all my expectations. > >On Chess.net, look at Webkikr(C), and see just how well it is doing. I believe >out of 250 games, it only has 11 losses, and all 11 were to Vipp-Computers(C) >running a Dual 1001Mhz computer. 4 times the hardware, yet Tiger was able to win >a few. I call that impressive. > >Very impressive. If I try to condense everything you say into a few words it would be: Very strong engines, ICS support and little diskspace needed. Not significantly different from the first Rebel Tiger AFAIK. You don't mention anything about it's analytical capabilities or features regarding the GUI itself, eg. database functions and automated tournaments. I would still like to know if it can be used for engine tournaments without two computers or accessing an ICS. Otherwise it sounds more like WinBoard with a price tag. The difference in being beaten to a pulp by either Crafty or Gambit Tiger is minimal for most people I imagine, but less painful if it's for free :o). Why not buy CM 8000 instead? Still looks like ICS show off software to me, which the latter paragraphs of your message exemplifies. Nice sales pitch, but a few more facts and specifics would be nice. Mogens.
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