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Subject: Re: what does the new rebel package have that chessbase engines dont?

Author: Harald Faber

Date: 08:28:40 10/13/00

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On October 13, 2000 at 09:03:45, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On October 13, 2000 at 08:35:49, Harald Faber wrote:
>
>>:-)
>>Sure. Not only one but four STRONGER engines (note the plural!), ICS support,
>>customizable menues and extended database handling e.g.
>
>The number of engines is only relevant if you know what to do with them. Most
>people can't hope to beat any of them and you really only need one for analysis.


Most of the people have more than one chess program. What do you think is the
reason?
Hint: read Uris posting.


>Apparently no tournament option either, which only leaves ICS and maybe the
>databse options. Sounds like even more Tiger clones at ICC.


No clones, the possibility to tune the engine is very limited.
I get the impression that you only try to provoke here.
No serious thinking guy would compare Winboard with any other commercial chess
program and say that they are the same, "just some database and ICS features"
more in the commercial program. These database features e.g. make the
difference, because they also offer analysis features.
For me and many others this is very important and I am not gonna justify why if
you are not able to understand that.
Sure you might have another opinion but this is no reason to try to
down-evaluate this commercial program. With your arguments you could argue
against any other commercial programs because of course they also offer "only"
some more database functions and ICS support. So they are all not worth buying.


>Why not include a WinBoard version as well? This would entice current users of
>other systems. Shouldn't be too difficult to accomplish either.


Why not vice versa like it is? You can play and use any Winboard-engine in Rebel
Tiger.


>>Winboard??? Have you ever looked at Winboard and at ChessPartner? Winboard is by
>>far inferior to any GUI I have seen.
>
>It supports the same advantages you just mentioned, except for the database
>handling. The engines available might not be just as strong, but strong enough
>for most.


For losing games it is enough to play Fritz3 or even Fritz2 on a current
machine.
Your database handling argument...well, read above.


>If the CP GUI supports tournaments then the four different engines and WinBoard
>support would be splendid. Otherwise it's just eng-eng, analysis and ICS. All
>supported by WinBoard and WinBoard compatible engines.


Your ignorance is impressive.


>>If your argument is price then CM8000 is also too expensive because it costs
>>money. Take Crafty and Winboard, that seems to be the best combination for you.
>
>Maybe for me, but we're not talking about me specifically. The consumer should
>know what he or she is getting compared to the competition and at what price.
>
>Mogens.


Concerning GUI almost the same the competitors offer plus amazing new engines
(again plural!).




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