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Subject: Re: Is there a program that won't play 1.Nxb6+?

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 09:35:23 10/13/00

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On October 13, 2000 at 10:51:24, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 13, 2000 at 09:39:06, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On October 11, 2000 at 23:48:56, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On October 11, 2000 at 02:21:40, Jim Monaghan wrote:
>>>
>>>>[D] 2k5/2p5/1q1p4/pPpPp1pp/N1P1Pp2/P4PbP/KQ4P1/8 w - - 0 1
>>>>
>>>>A. Petrosian - Hazai, 1970  As Dr. Nunn states in his annotations Black's
>>>>position is quite bad and he tried Qa7-b6 last move and White couldn't resist
>>>>snapping off the queen ... and drawing.  The correct scheme is to reject the
>>>>"gift" and play Qd2, Kb3, Nc3, Ka4, Na2-c1-b3 and Qxa5 with Black just watching.
>>>> I gave this to Crafty 17.13 ...
>>>>
>>>>20     4:33   5.32   1. Nxb6+ cxb6 2. h4 gxh4 3. Qc1 h3
>>>>                                    4. gxh3 h4 5. Kb3 Kd7 6. Kc3 Bf2 7.
>>>>                                    Kd3 Ke7 8. Qd2 Bg3 9. Qc2 <HT>
>>>>
>>>>Is there a program that "understands" the idea of a blockade, or is this still a
>>>>tough area for programmers ... where ply depth doesn't really help but something
>>>>in it's evaluation function?  From a human standpoint the concept is not that
>>>>complex although A. Petrosian stumbled ...
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>I really don't deal with this case, because there is practically no chance that
>>>anyone could force crafty into a position like this, as it tries _so_ hard to
>>>prevent leverless positions.
>>
>>oh well, how about grabbing that queen then directly h3-h4 qc1-h1-h3 and then
>>grab on h5 and then get the b6 and d6 pawn and win easily with white.
>>
>>See you
>You cannot play Qc1-h1-h3 because of the following line:
>1. Nxb6+ cxb6 2. h4 gxh4 3. Qc1 h3 4. gxh3 h4
>
>Uri

oh i missed that. let's remove that pawn on h5 anyway :)

this is a very illegal looking position with a pawn on h4 and h4 both :)




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