Author: Francesco Di Tolla
Date: 04:49:25 10/14/00
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On October 14, 2000 at 04:18:34, Mogens Larsen wrote: Ok, I guess that all of this coms from the fact they were missing your attempt to make a feature-per-feature "scientific" comparison >Rebel 11: > >WinBoard compatability: Yes. >Engines: Four amazing new engines. well: to be precise you have two incarnations of tiger which are quite different and ok this should be considered the best part of it. Furthermore there is Rebel for DOS that many still would not very much like, not because of the engine which is fantastic, but because of the dear old dos interface. Finally you have a windows version of the Rebel engine for analysis. This of course is better that not having it but it is not really a 4-th engine: it is very similar to the DOS version (I do not consider the various versions of fritz engine in SB software as a real plus if I buy it) and you cannot play against it. >Database: Ability to create and maintain databses. Database capability is to generic: also winboard can load and save games, what makes a databse is the range of features it has. So we would need some of the Tiger staff illustrating which nice features it has. >Opening book: Ability to create, modify and use opening books. >Analysis: Yes, though it's sligtly unclear how many analysis function there is, >eg. automatic analysis of a game or n-moves mode. >Testsuits: Yes (I think). >Clipboard: Don't know if it's possible to paste games and positions directly. >Playing options: Human-engine, engine-engine (also with autoplay), but not >tournaments. Can you use Nunn positions? >Level (human-engine): Is it possible to vary the playing strength? >ICS support: Yes. > >Chessbase: > >WinBoard compatability: Yes. this is one of the weakest side of ChessBase software. The adapter was a good idea, but badly implemented: we all now its limits in compatibility and its bad habit of resetting the hash table. Of course as a first release was again good since it was given for free. On the other side, I guess that now they have little interest in making a second version that overcomes this problems, since they make native version of the winboard engines and, if they are good enough, they sell them. On the other side when all the other programs will have a better interface to the winboard engines (MCS system, Chess Vision and Chess Academy have it already, Chess Master and Rebel might have in next versions) they might be "forced" by popular demand to issue a better winboard adapter. >Engines: A multitude of strong engines. Some for free. This is a totally misleading statement! The point here is that you can get some free engines (crafty and comet are very good e.g.) , but for all the others (Hiarcs, Nimzo, Junior) you have to buy and pay the full program again (apart for the 2 winboard compatible engines that are not freely available and you can buy stand alone from the web). >Database: Ability to create and maintain databases. this is one of the best side of CB stuff: you can do without a real chess databse if you have fritz >Opening books: Ability to create, modify and use opening books. >Analysis: Infinite analysis, Full analysis, blunder check, n-moves mode and a >few others. >Testsuits: Yes. >Clipboard: Paste games and positions directly. >Playing options: Human-engine, engine-engine (also with autoplay) and >tournaments. Nunn positions possible. >Level (human-engine): Various settings possible: Friend mode, sparring and >handicap. >ICS support: No AFAIK. regards Franz
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