Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 18:35:33 10/15/00
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On October 14, 2000 at 16:15:17, Thorsten Czub wrote: >[Event "Open Dutch CC 2000"] >[Site "Leiden NED"] >[Date "2000.10.14"] >[Round "02"] >[White "Tiger"] >[Black "Nimzo 8"] >[Result "1-0"] >[ECO "D20"] > >1.d4 d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.e4 Nf6 4.e5 Nd5 5.Bxc4 Nb6 6.Bb3 Nc6 7.Ne2 Bf5 >8.Nbc3 e6 9.a3 Qd7 10.O-O Be7 11.Be3 O-O-O 12.Rc1 f6 13.exf6 gxf6 >14.Na4 Nd5 15.Bc4 Na5 16.Ba2 Bg4 17.Nac3 Nxc3 18.Rxc3 Kb8 19.f3 Bh5 >20.b4 Nc6 21.b5 Na5 22.Qa4 b6 23.Nf4 Bf7 24.Rfc1 Bd6 25.Nd3 Rhg8 >26.Nc5 Bxc5 27.dxc5 e5 28.Bxf7 Qxf7 29.cxb6 cxb6 30.Qc2 Qg6 31.Qa2 f5 >32.Kh1 f4 33.Bg1 h5 34.Qe2 Qf6 35.a4 h4 36.h3 Qg5 37.R1c2 Rd7 >38.Qe1 Rdg7 39.Qe4 Rd7 40.Qe2 Rgd8 41.Qe1 Qe7 42.Qe4 Qg5 > >Here the thing begins ! >Rc6 is an easy move for Gambit-Tiger. It KNOWS that these kind >of moves are playable. and it gives the rook to make the bishop >on g1 active. >no search-based chess program can see this IMO. >this is the paradigm-shift. > >gambit-tiger believes that this move could make it. >it is not KNOWING it. it trusts the evaluations and the >knowledge it has. > >thats chris whittingtons way. here you see christophe >walking in the foot-steps of chris... > >leaving the hyatt-paradigm. I have to disagree. It is not hard to tune my (or any other) program to play this move. If you watch gambit tiger play, it has some _outrageous_ scores. In a game on ICC the other night, Crafty was at -.2, gambit tiger was at +3.2... would you care to guess _which_ was right? I will be more impressed when I see lots of such moves where _most_ are right... IE CSTal finds great looking moves that often backfire. Too often. Speculation is one thing. Accuracy is another. There _is_ a middle ground... > >is there any chess program playing Rc6 ? > >brilliant. i hope more will follow. >because this steps into a new quality in computerchess. >the moment when chess programs BELIEVE !!!! instead of knowing. >or seeing in the tree. This is so inherently dangerous it is obvious. Just because you _believe_ you can walk on water doesn't make it so. You had better _know_... If you are only 10 feet from shore, you might not drown. In the middle of the Pacific, you had better be _certain_ you can walk... > > >43.Rc6 Nxc6 >44.bxc6 Rc7 45.a5 bxa5 46.Qe2 a4 47.Qb5+ Ka8 48.Qxa4 Qf6 49.Qa5 Qe7 >50.Re2 Rdc8 51.Rxe5 Qg7 52.Qe1 a6 53.Qe2 Rxc6 54.Re7 Qc3 55.Kh2 Qb4 >56.Ra7+ Kb8 57.Qe5+ R8c7 58.Qh8+ Rc8 59.Qxh4 Rc1 60.Bf2 R1c6 >61.Qg5 R8c7 62.Qg8+ Rc8 63.Qg7 R8c7 64.Qh8+ Rc8 65.Qe5+ R8c7 66.h4 Rc2 >67.Bd4 R2c4 68.Qe8+ Rc8 69.Qe4 R8c6 70.Rd7 a5 71.Be5+ Ka8 72.Rd8+ Ka7 >73.Qh7+ Ka6 74.Rb8 Rb6 75.Ra8+ Kb5 76.Qd7+ Rcc6 77.Bc7 Qe1 78.Re8 Qxh4+ >79.Kg1 Qf6 80.Re5+ Kc4 81.Bxb6 Qxe5 82.Qxc6+ Kb3 83.Qe4 Qa1+ >84.Kf2 Qb2+ 85.Qe2 Qxe2+ 86.Kxe2 a4 87.Kd2 a3 88.Ba5 a2 1-0 > >typical for this forum that nobody registers. > >i guess the nimzo-team has registered it. >maybe chrilly himself, when he was in leiden knows about.
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