Author: Uri Blass
Date: 08:49:23 10/16/00
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On October 16, 2000 at 11:32:30, pavel wrote: >On October 16, 2000 at 10:48:24, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On October 16, 2000 at 09:53:20, pavel wrote: >> >>>[Event "Calcutta"] >>>[Site "Calcutta"] >>>[Date "1986.??.??"] >>>[Round "5"] >>>[White "Agzamov, G."] >>>[Black "Anand, V."] >>>[Result "1-0"] >>>[WhiteElo "2545"] >>>[BlackElo "2405"] >>>[ECO "E75"] >>> >>>1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Be2 O-O 6.Bg5 c5 7.d5 e6 8.Qd2 exd5 9.exd5 >>>Qb6 >>>10.Nf3 Re8 11.O-O Bf5 12.Rae1 Bg4 13.h3 Bxf3 14.Bxf3 Nbd7 15.Rxe8+ Rxe8 16.Qc2 >>>a6 >>>17.Bd2 Re7 18.b3 Ne8 19.g4 Qd8 20.a4 Bd4 21.Kg2 Ng7 22.Bd1 Re8 23.Ne4 Qe7 24.Re1 >>>Qf8 25.Ng3 Rxe1 26.Bxe1 Qe7 27.Bd2 Ne8 28.a5 Qf6 29.Ne4 Qe5 30.f4 Qe7 31.Qd3 >>>Nef6 >>>32.Ng3 Bb2 33.g5 Ne8 34.h4 Ba3 35.Bg4 Ng7 36.Qe4 Qd8 37.Qe1 f5 38.gxf6 Nxf6 >>>39.Be6+ >>>Kf8 40.f5 1-0 >>> >>> >>>[D]3q1k2/1p4np/p2pBnp1/P1pP1P2/2P4P/bP4N1/3B2K1/4Q3 b - - 0 1 >>> >>>why does Anand see that persuaded him to resign in this position? >>>I mean, is it a hopeless position or a clearly lost position? >>> >>>this is what crafty thinks in a slow machine. >>> >>>Depth: 11 Value: 1.62 >>>40. ... Bb4 41. Bxb4 cxb4 42. Qxb4 Qe7 43. fxg6 Nxe6 44. dxe6 hxg6 45. Qe1 d5 >>>46. cxd5 Nxd5 47. Qe5 >>> >>>----------------------------------------------------- >>> >>>Analysis by Junior 6.0: >>> >>>1. ² (0.53): 1...Ba3-b4 2.Bd2xb4 >>>2. ± (0.91): 1...Ng7xe6 2.f5xe6 Ba3-b2 3.h4-h5 Bb2-d4 4.Bd2-h6+ Kf8-e8 5.h5xg6 >>>h7xg6 6.Ng3-e4 Nf6xe4 >>> >>>(mahamood, MyTown 16.10.2000) >>> >>>----------------------------------------------------- >>> >>>Analysis by Fritz 6 Test 66: >>> >>>1. ± (1.34): 1...Qd8-e7 2.Qe1-a1 Ba3-b4 3.Bd2-f4 Ng7-e8 4.h4-h5 Qe7-g7 5.h5-h6 >>>Qg7-h8 6.f5xg6 >>>2. +- (1.50): 1...Ng7xe6 2.d5xe6 b7-b5 3.a5xb6 Ba3-b2 4.Qe1-b1 Bb2-e5 5.f5xg6 >>>Qd8xb6 6.g6xh7 >>> >>>(mahamood, MyTown 16.10.2000) >>> >>>----------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>>anyone actually sees a clear win? >>> >>>thanks >>> >>>Pavel ;) >> >>I see a clear win(assuming the time control is 2 hours/40 moves) >>It is possible that black lost on time >> >>Uri > > >So do you think its one of those positions that computers dont undertsnad well >or, more time and faster hardware is needed.... > >I am an average player so i would'nt dare make stupid assumption. > >Thanks >Pavel ;) I am not sure if white is winning only by the position. The clear win that I see is winning on time. I expect most players to continue in the relevant position 40.f5 is the 40th move so it is logical to suspect that white won on time assuming 2 hours/40 moves. Another possibility is that anand did not feel well and in the bad position he prefered not to continue. Another possibility is that anand blundered in the 40th move and resigned after it when the sides did not write the last move. Uri
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