Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 20:16:04 10/16/00
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On October 16, 2000 at 22:24:35, Chessfun wrote:
>On October 16, 2000 at 21:10:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On October 16, 2000 at 19:51:41, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>On October 15, 2000 at 21:35:33, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have to disagree. It is not hard to tune my (or any other) program to
>>>>play this move. If you watch gambit tiger play, it has some _outrageous_
>>>>scores. In a game on ICC the other night, Crafty was at -.2, gambit tiger
>>>>was at +3.2...
>>>
>>>Dr. I am interested in seeing this game.
>>>I assume it was against subtleone as I currently see 9 in
>>>it's history. Can you advise which game it was.
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>>I honestly don't know. Albert can answer as we were chatting during the
>>games... he was kibitzing tiger scores, crafty was kibitzing its own scores.
>>
>>About all I can do to help is to say crafty was white, it was an opposite
>>castling game (crafty on queenside, tiger on the kingside). I came in right
>>after the opening so I didn't notice what it was. And due to distractions I
>>don't know how it ended. I simply remembered +3.2 from tiger, and -.2 for
>>Crafty... until finally Albert said something like "+.5 here now, it seems
>>that the attack is over..."
>>
>>Bob
>
>The queenside kingside thing was perfect.
>From searching Crafty Subtleone I come up with only three games
>since Gambit 0.95 was first released.
>
>Since this first game was drawn it is logical to look at it first
>as at some point in the other games Gambit would have been up and
>since the other two are blitz times it isn't likely them that were
>being kibitzed as to score.
>
>From looking at this game with Gambit 0.95 which was the only version
>available on the date the game was played, I can find no point where
>Gambit thinks it is winning by more than a minimal amount.
>
>Maybe Albert can shed some light on it.
I believe that this first game is the one. I didn't like the move a4 for
black, as it made it difficult to break things open without tossing material.
Somewhere in there for several moves Albert was kibitzing scores of up to
+3.2... and beyond. Perhaps he can supply more info. The last two appear
to be the same identical game? Either that is a mistake or my book learning
is broken...
>
>[Event "ICC 60 3"]
>[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
>[Date "2000.10.09"]
>[Round "-"]
>[White "crafty"]
>[Black "SubtleOne"]
>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>[ICCResult "Game drawn by repetition"]
>[WhiteElo "2655"]
>[BlackElo "2543"]
>[Opening "Sicilian: Richter-Rauzer, Rauzer attack, 7...Be7 defense, 9...Nxd4"]
>[TimeControl "3600+3"]
>
>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 d6 6. Bg5 e6 7. Qd2 Be7 8.
>O-O-O O-O 9. f4 Nxd4 10. Qxd4 Qa5 11. Bc4 Bd7 12. e5 dxe5 13. fxe5 Bc6 14.
>Bd2 Nd7 15. Nd5 Qc5 16. Nxe7+ Qxe7 17. Rhe1 Nb6 18. Bb3 Rfc8 19. Qg4 Bd5 20.
>Bg5 Qf8 21. Bxd5 Nxd5 22. Rd2 Rc7 23. Re4 Rac8 24. Red4 b5 25. Kb1 a5 26. c3
>a4 27. a3 Rc6 28. h4 b4 29. axb4 a3 30. bxa3 Rxc3 31. R2d3 Qe8 32. Bh6 g6
>33. Rxd5 exd5 34. Rxc3 Rxc3 35. Qd4 Rb3+ 36. Ka2 Qa4 37. Bc1 Rg3 38. Qxd5
>Qc2+ 39. Bb2 Rxg2 40. Qb3 Qe4 41. b5 Rg1 42. Bc3 Rg3 43. b6 Qg2+ 44. Qb2 Qb7
>45. Qb3 Rxc3 46. Qxc3 Qxb6 47. Qc8+ Kg7 48. Qc3 Kg8 49. Qc8+ Kg7 50. Qc3 Kg8
>{Game drawn by repetition}
>1/2-1/2
>
>[Event "ICC 5 3"]
>[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
>[Date "2000.10.16"]
>[Round "-"]
>[White "crafty"]
>[Black "SubtleOne"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ICCResult "White resigns"]
>[WhiteElo "2935"]
>[BlackElo "2912"]
>[Opening "Sicilian: Richter-Rauzer, Rauzer attack, 7...Be7"]
>[TimeControl "300+3"]
>
>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 d6 6. Bg5 e6 7. Qd2 Be7 8.
>O-O-O O-O 9. Nb3 Qb6 10. f3 Rd8 11. Be3 Qc7 12. Qf2 d5 13. exd5 Nxd5 14.
>Nxd5 Rxd5 15. Rxd5 exd5 16. g4 Bf6 17. Kb1 Be6 18. c3 Rc8 19. Bxa7 Nxa7 20.
>Qxa7 Qf4 21. Bg2 b5 22. Rc1 Qxh2 23. Qf2 Qf4 24. Qd2 Qxd2 25. Nxd2 d4 26.
>Ne4 b4 27. a3 bxc3 28. bxc3 Be7 29. cxd4 Ba2+ 30. Kb2 Bxa3+ 31. Kxa3 Rxc1
>32. Kxa2 Rc2+ 33. Kb3 Rxg2 34. d5 f5 35. gxf5 Kf7 36. d6 h5 37. Nc5 h4 38.
>Ne6 Ke8 39. Nf4 Rf2 40. Kc4 Rxf3 41. Ne2 h3 42. Nd4 Rf2 43. Kd3 h2 44. Ke3
>Rg2 45. Kd3 h1=Q 46. f6 Qd1+ 47. Kc4 Rg4 48. f7+ Kxf7 49. Kb5 Qxd4 50. d7
>Qd5+ 51. Ka6 Qc6+ 52. Ka7 {White resigns} 0-1
>
>[Event "ICC 5 3"]
>[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
>[Date "2000.10.16"]
>[Round "-"]
>[White "crafty"]
>[Black "SubtleOne"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ICCResult "White resigns"]
>[WhiteElo "2935"]
>[BlackElo "2912"]
>[Opening "Sicilian: Richter-Rauzer, Rauzer attack, 7...Be7"]
>[TimeControl "300+3"]
>
>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 d6 6. Bg5 e6 7. Qd2 Be7 8.
>O-O-O O-O 9. Nb3 Qb6 10. f3 Rd8 11. Be3 Qc7 12. Qf2 d5 13. exd5 Nxd5 14.
>Nxd5 Rxd5 15. Rxd5 exd5 16. g4 Bf6 17. Kb1 Be6 18. c3 Rc8 19. Bxa7 Nxa7 20.
>Qxa7 Qf4 21. Bg2 b5 22. Rc1 Qxh2 23. Qf2 Qf4 24. Qd2 Qxd2 25. Nxd2 d4 26.
>Ne4 b4 27. a3 bxc3 28. bxc3 Be7 29. cxd4 Ba2+ 30. Kb2 Bxa3+ 31. Kxa3 Rxc1
>32. Kxa2 Rc2+ 33. Kb3 Rxg2 34. d5 f5 35. gxf5 Kf7 36. d6 h5 37. Nc5 h4 38.
>Ne6 Ke8 39. Nf4 Rf2 40. Kc4 Rxf3 41. Ne2 h3 42. Nd4 Rf2 43. Kd3 h2 44. Ke3
>Rg2 45. Kd3 h1=Q 46. f6 Qd1+ 47. Kc4 Rg4 48. f7+ Kxf7 49. Kb5 Qxd4 50. d7
>Qd5+ 51. Ka6 Qc6+ 52. Ka7 {White resigns} 0-1
>
>
>Sarah.
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