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Subject: Re: typical: a sensation happens and nobody here registers it !

Author: Mogens Larsen

Date: 02:33:27 10/17/00

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On October 16, 2000 at 11:12:48, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>This is not fair.

:o))

>You can't blame the loss on a bad/weak move by black.  Not after white
>sacrificed material.  The loss was caused by the Rc6 sacrifice.
>
>Or at least that is what we are supposed to believe.
>
>:)
>
>(good analysis by the way.  I see some short-term suffering by black, but he
>is material ahead.  And once the suffering is over, counting pawns is a good way
>to see who is winning.)

It should be rather simple to prove. Can any of the other top programs defend
the position after Rc6 at tournament time control? The beta testers might try to
see if Gambit Tiger can defeat Tiger 13.0 playing black in this position.
Everything I've checked suggests bad defensive play by black (not exactly
uncommon with Nimzo) as mentioned by Amir. There's been a lot of personal
opinions, but very little solid analysis. In my opinion there's nothing to
secure a white win, except faults by black, but as a poor chess player I could
be completely wrong.

Furthermore, claiming that a new dawn for computer chess has risen on the basis
of a single move in a single game is too simplistic to be taken seriously by
anyone. That approach is not usually accepted, so why should it be that now. All
this shouting from the roof tops is pure rubbish IMHO. The same goes for the "We
see the light" (CT & Co.) vs. the people "Confined to living in darkness" (just
about everyone else) approach. An obvious result when uninformed persons like
Thorsten Czub are allowed to control the nature of the debate, resulting in
useless quibbiling about games and numbers.

The move is very nice and results in a more interesting game, but if the
computer chess world should change overnight with every single move of good
quality then it would be hard to stick to anything, let alone have a firm basis
for going anywhere in particular. Aside from the fact that there would suddenly
be a lot of "revolutionary" concepts.

However, if the engine really is significantly different, it would be a nice
addition as would any other new or improved program.

Mogens.



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