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Subject: Re: MChess 7.0

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 02:33:42 12/27/97

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>>BTW: I am using 2x k6/200 with 60/60 time-control.
>>I am using /x mode for both programs.
>
>
>This is impossible !!!! Please can you explain us, how you get MChess
>7.0 working in the X-Mode ????

starting it with mcp7 /x
Typing the above command.
This is NOT impossible.
:-) "!!!!"
I cannot explain HOW to get it into the mode, just do not use himem nor
emm386 and start it with /x.
No message appears that this is not possible.

MChess 7.0 + MChess 7.1 didn`t support any "X-Mode" .......you `ll often
>have problems with MMX-Cpu`s, so Marty let this mode out.

Aha.

>
>Perhaps you should read the manual a little bit, before you give us your
>"expert statement" here ....

I have not given a statement concerning the X mode. If my information
about the X-mode was silly, sorry. In fact Mchess did not run in
/X-mode. (I checked the auto232-batch), but, still your statement that
the X-mode is impossible with mcp7 is NOT true.
I will not answer your sarcastic style visible in the sentence above.
It is your choice to choose the tone you like. I have never said that I
am an expert. I am a hobbyist. Computerchess is my hobby. I am not paid
for it.
If somebody is an expert, than of course you are an expert. I am doing
my hobby and have no lobbyism !

>In Paris MChess 7.0 played with the normal mode, using Himem.Sys .....
>
>
>-Peter
>
>
>Chris Wittington wrote :
>
>> I want to defend Mchess. >
>
>Thank you very much !!!!!!

:-) "!!!!!!"

> This way it builds
>a book where 'bad' theory gets rejected; and a new Mchess idea gets
>tried. If the 'new' idea works, it becomes part of the book,>
>
>It works !!!!!!!

I don't see much sense to put a mass of autoplayer'ish outplayed games
into the tournament book of a chess program.
I am not interested if this works or not. Mchess7 is a strong chess
program and does not need to be full of anti-hiarcs , anti-rebel9 or
anti - whatever killer lines. The work is contraproductive because it
suggest Mchess7 could not play chess without this "method". You can see
this in the effort of some austrian tournaments where they get rid of
these WORKING-LINES where they play without opening lines. Moritz Berger
and Dirk Frickenschmidt and other people work out special balanced
openings to overcome this problem of a "working-opening-book".
I thought after the critics against Mchess6 killer lines Marty or Sandro
or you would have reconsidered the topic and would have changes the
amount of those lines into a smaller number. But the opposite seems to
have happened.
I don't like this. I guess other people do not like this to.

>>You guys argue to shoot Sandro Nechi. Instead you should be applauding
>>him.

>That `s it ! In my view it`s legal, to give the programm the best lines.

No - it's legal. But not funny for the customer. You can - from my point
of view- throw the games with those line into a trash and start another
different opening because it makes not much sense to play a game where
mchess is in book for 30 moves meanwhile hiarcs is out of book since
move 15.
Don't tell me that it is necessary for mchess7 to have those lines to
react on hiarcs6 killer lines. I would not believe those answer.
I see a sense in a learning function. This is a PASSIVE method.
But your way of putting lines of 30 moves into the book, against an
enemy that was released a year before and cannot react, is not a passive
method. It is an active action and it causes answer or HAS to cause
answer by the opponents.
This way you initiate a tug of war.
I don't want to comment on the moralic issue of this WORKING methods.
No human beeing can buy a kasparov and play autoplayer games with him at
home to get the right book. And Kasparov would never repeat the same
lines in sweden.


>Nobody will prevent you Jeroen, to make it better !!!!!!

In fact that is the main problem. That your "work" however positive you
see it, causes reaction of others who are attacked by your methods.

>
>-Peter



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