Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 11:45:51 10/17/00
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On October 16, 2000 at 11:07:10, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>On October 16, 2000 at 01:35:52, Christophe Theron wrote:
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>>You have told me the same when Rebel-Tiger I has been released last year. :)
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>>Others have said the same. The theory was that Chess Tiger 12 had not been
>>released, and that was an unfair advantage because the competition had no
>>opportunity to "tune" against it.
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>>Well one year after I still don't see any program outplaying it badly...
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>You missed the point. After one year I don't see _it_ outplaying the
>other programs significantly. It started on top of the SSDF. It is no
>longer there. That was the point. I personally believe that if _any_
>programmer finds something "new", it will be "understood" by the rest of
>the programmers within a reasonable amount of time. And then it has been
>effectively negated. Unless someone doesn't make any changes, of course.
Your point is very weak. The two programs that are now above Tiger 12 on the
SSDF list have been released at the same time as Tiger.
There was no time for Amir and Frans to learn anything from the Tiger 12 engine
and to improve their engine with what they would have learned from Tiger 12.
Frans and Amir have improved their programs on their own, it has nothing to do
with the release of Tiger 12. Or maybe they knew Tiger 12 was coming and was
very strong, and it helped them to find some new motivation? But that's all.
If you spend your time trying to find weaknesses in your opponent's and try to
take advantage of them, you don't really improve your program.
There is plenty of chess knowledge that our programs do not have, instead of
trying to kill some given opponent it is better to look at the knowledge we are
missing and try to put it into our programs.
That's how I work. I don't care much about what the competitors are doing. I
keep an eye on them, but that's not my obsession.
For example, I have the Fritz6 CD, and I have received by email the Fritz6a
update.
Believe it or not, I have never installed it on any of my computers. I'm not
really proud, I would prefer to have the time to try it. But my priority was to
work on my own engine, and IMO it does not involve spending time studying
Fritz6.
Christophe
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