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Subject: Re: SSDF. Gandalfs LEARNING is destoyed when aborting!!

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 05:57:56 10/18/00

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On October 18, 2000 at 08:29:18, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On October 18, 2000 at 07:54:08, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>
>>If you would have read my post, you wrote an asnwer to,
>>you would have seen that i added Gandalf into the list of knowledge
>>programs. Please correct me if Gandalf isn't planning while playing
>>and correct me when you have observed that Gandalf is a bean-counter.
>>Then my observation from the games would be wrong, indeed.
>
>No, you added Gandalf to your special new-paradigm club. Knowledge based
>programs are hardly a novelty, so the term "new-paradigm" is a little silly.
>There's a lot knowledge based programs available.

Thorsten's definition of knowledge based program is not clear.
The definition is not based on nodes per second(otherwise it is not logical to
say that gambittiger is knowledgebased when Crafty is not knowledgebased
program).
>
>But you're right about one thing, Gandalf isn't a bean counter AFAIK, even
>though that definition is slightly blurry to say the least.
>
>Btw, chess programs don't make plans. You interpret their moves as a plan, but
>it isn't.

I believe that it is the case.
I am not sure if it is the case because I do not know the source code of all the
programs.

I believe that it is possible to do programs that make plans and not only
calculate moves(it should first calculate target position and later search for
moves to achieve this target) but I believe that there is no program that works
in this way.

I am sure that it is not easy to do it and I have not a clear plan how to do it.

Uri



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