Author: Enrique Irazoqui
Date: 16:00:11 10/18/00
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On October 18, 2000 at 18:28:03, Bertil Eklund wrote: >On October 18, 2000 at 16:53:05, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: > >>On October 18, 2000 at 14:49:09, Bertil Eklund wrote: >> >>>On October 18, 2000 at 14:09:00, Mike S. wrote: >>> >>>>This kind of problem could have been avoided since the start of the list, if >>>>they would have done it like this (like I wrote once or twice here too): >>>> >>>>1. switch off all (permanent) learning >>>>2. remove all doubles (!!) from the results >>>> >>>>By this, they would test "out of the box" versions. What's the use of testing >>>>software with (an increasing mass of) individual learning data, which any other >>>>user *does not have*? Sooner or later, they are testing something completely >>>>different from the software one can buy. >>>> >>>>But they *just won't do it*. Chaos continues. >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>>M.Scheidl >>>Hi! >>> >>>You can't be serious?! Do you mean we should accept opening books like Mchess6 >>>that' always (90%)of the games plays 1.e4-e5 2.Bc4. If the other program favors >>>1.-e5 it's almost impossible to play more than one game. >>> >>>Or Rebel8 that always played the same slave line against 1.c4 -c6 >>>If we had accepted that we shouldn't see the great books of today from Noomen >>>and Kure. >>> >>>I remember an old tournament of Enrique (stand-alone computers).He played 20 >>>game matches with the different programs, except with one program where it was >>>impossible to play more than 4 rounds because of the limited opening-book. >> >>It was quite frustrating. Wasn't it Conchess the guilty machine? >> >>18 years ago... Good memory, Bertil. >> >>Enrique >> >>>Bertil > >Hi! > >Yes and it was a swedish program! The next Conchess used a very big (for the >time) book of Sandro Necchi. In 1984 with the name Princhess it shared the first >place with Fidelity and the new "wunderkind" Richard Lang. > >Bertil The engine and board were very nice, but that book... We should have a contest, maybe a poll, for the most frustrating, the most beautiful, the most boring, most fun, etc. dedicated machines ever. Fidelity Champion would win hands down the prize for most boring ever. Scisys MKV the most beautiful. And so on. Enrique
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