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Subject: Re: Deep Blue Jr on ICC

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:08:06 10/19/00

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On October 19, 2000 at 16:51:49, Albert Silver wrote:

>On October 18, 2000 at 09:56:52, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On October 18, 2000 at 05:44:36, Andrew Williams wrote:
>>
>>>My apologies if this is old news.
>>>
>>>There was an account called DeepBlueJr watching Kramnik-Kasparov, game 6
>>>on ICC last night. The finger notes said the owner was Murray Campbell
>>>(a couple of the admins stated that it was indeed DeepBlueJr). I asked
>>>him what exactly he was using and he said that it was a 24-processor
>>>version attached to a R/6000. He said the processors were the same ones
>>>that ran in the Deeper Blue that beat Kasparov. I asked him what NPS he
>>>was getting and he said "looks like 28M" (!). I also asked him what sorts
>>>of depths it was searching, but he didn't answer. Another thing he didn't
>>>answer was my suggestion that he join CCT2 :-)
>>>
>>>The program wasn't kibitzing automatically like crafty does, but he was
>>>occasionally cutting and pasting the analysis into channel 211. This was
>>>around the time that Kramnik was on top, before the win seemed to slip
>>>away from him.
>>>
>>>Andrew
>>>
>>>PS Just in case anyone was wondering, I asked him if he minded my reporting
>>>this conversation here and he was quite happy for me to do so.
>>
>>
>>I was surprised, too.  But I did chat with him a good bit and am convinced that
>>it was Murray.  I will try to bug him a bit about CCT2, but I have a suspicion
>>that IBM won't allow public exhibitions like that...
>
>Really.... Wow. When he posted that, I was convinced some joker had set up the
>pseudo as a prank. (Sorry about that Andrew)
>
>Did you ask him about the tuning? Have they done any work on refining the eval
>or is it unchanged from the time of the match? 28 million NPS... Wonder how much
>that cuts in to the depths compared to its bigger brother.
>
>                                         Albert


I didn't understand the 28M number, but my screen was so danged busy scrolling
all the nerdy comments from the 1000 people observing the game, that I didn't
get a chance to ask him.  24 processors at >= 2M nodes per second per processor
should be 48M.  I assumed he typoed when he said 28M.

It (DB Jr) was a holy terror against GMs in the many exhibitions they played
prior to the final DB match.  This machine would be less than 10x slower than
the real machine.  I would think it would be a handful for anybody.



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