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Subject: Re: What Gambit New Paradigm could be...if it exist

Author: Ratko V Tomic

Date: 10:18:30 10/23/00

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> Bob Hyatt did not say that gambittiger is result of changing some
> numbers like in chessmaster.
...
> I suggested that a different evaluation function is the reason for
> the fact that gambittiger sacrifies and has good results.

I assume you're using term "evaluation" function in the sense of some
computation done at each leaf node to estimate the node value, a function called
at the leaf which returns a value of the leaf. (Otherwise, with a broad enough
definition of "evaluation function" your and Bob's hypothesis can be claimed
correct by definition.)

With the assumed definition, and taking your explanation for what kind of
novelty GT has, the GT and regular Tiger could be trivially made into one
program where changing a number or two (the weights of the new and the old king
safety evaluation term) you can switch from pure GT to pure CT and any point in
between. There is no need to plan to integrate them in the future. Why would
they ship two separate programs and why would Christophe mention that unifying
the two programs will require quite a bit of work (well beyond cutting and
pasting an evaluation function from one to another). Since he does wish (and
intends) to unify them, it can't be a marketing gimmick to make it look as if 4
engines are in the distribution package, instead of 3.

From the fact that it is a different program with the unification work planned
in the future, I conclude that it is more than a new leaf node evaluator
function for king safety. Since Christophe had mentioned that it wasn't a new
kind of search algorithm, in order to still be non-trivial to transplant it into
regular Tiger, there must be some more spread out type of new code, permeating
the search routines and intertwined in a non-trivial way with the pre /
post-processing logic.

I suppose, Cristophe might be able to set this straight without blowing away any
trade secrets. In any case, it ought to become clearer when we all had a chance
to play with it a bit, run it through test positions and compare its nodes,
times, depths & lines with regular Tiger.



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