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Subject: Re: A test position for chess programs(Gambittiger-Tao)

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 13:33:54 10/23/00

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On October 23, 2000 at 13:18:12, Bas Hamstra wrote:

>On October 23, 2000 at 00:14:36, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On October 22, 2000 at 17:30:45, Bas Hamstra wrote:
>>
>>>On October 22, 2000 at 17:00:27, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 22, 2000 at 16:38:43, Bas Hamstra wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 21, 2000 at 15:24:47, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>[D]r1bqkb1r/pp1p3p/6p1/3P1pN1/3n3Q/8/PP3PPP/R1B1KB1R b KQkq - 0 1
>>>>>>The test is to avoid Nc2+ without book.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jeroen claimed that the problem is that Tao had no book but I suspect that the
>>>>>>problem is the fact that Tao has no king attack evaluation and if you combine
>>>>>>with the fact that Tao is weak in tactics like most of the chess programs you
>>>>>>can get the blunder.
>>>>>
>>>>>Well no big deal you say so but...
>>>>>
>>>>>a) Tao was capable of beating Quest/Fritz on 2x slower hardware
>>>>>b) Tao-Xinix (round 6) was a tactical beauty. The King (the reference) could
>>>>>hardly have mated faster here.
>>>>>
>>>>>In all, I don't think it is THAT bad tactically...
>>>>
>>>>I did not say that it is bad in tactics relative to most of the programs and
>>>>most of the chess programs play Nc2+ without book.
>>>>
>>>>My Junior5.9 can avoid it at 4 hours/40 moves but cannot avoid it at 3 hours/40
>>>>moves on my pentiumIII450 and Junior5.9 is better than most of the programs in
>>>>avoiding Nc2+.
>>>>
>>>>I can add that when I wrote that Tao has no king attack evaluation I meant to
>>>>say no big king attack evaluation(I think that Gambittiger and chesssystemtal
>>>>are the only programs with big king attack evaluation)
>>>
>>>Possibly, I can't really judge. But I would The King to that list. Why not start
>>>up a new sequence: AttackMaster 1000 in stead of CMxxxx ?!
>>
>>
>>
>>I agree that The King is also good at this, but it is not as speculative as
>>CSTal or Gambit Tiger.
>
>Hi Christophe,
>
>Congratulations with your victory. Tiger is indeed very strong! You manage to
>outsearch them all totally. Allowing just 2 draws in such a strong field can't
>be coincidence.
>
>Ciao!
>Bas.



Thanks. Keep on working and you'll get there too.



    Christophe



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