Author: Ed Schröder
Date: 05:59:44 12/30/97
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>Posted by Chris Whittington on December 30, 1997 at 06:54:48: >In Reply to: Re: M-Chess Pro7 : strength ?? posted by Ed Schröder on >December 29, 1997 at 19:24:11: >On December 29, 1997 at 19:24:11, Ed Schröder wrote: >>>I mean, you appear to be taking the moral high grouind, but are your >>>motives pure ? >>I will answer this for Jeroen. >>Chris, nobody is asking why the CSTAL team is attacking Genius >>(boring, no good for analysis and so on). Also the CSTAL team started >>the subject on the Mchess book-killer issue. Nobody is asking if the >>motives of the CSTAL team (attacking Genius and Mchess) are pure. >>That would be ridiculous, no? >Firstly what is a team ? >If you want to stuff me and TC in a team, you'll need to first check, >tighten and replace the ropes attaching his cannon to my deck. >Mchess killer book issues, I take the entirely opposite view to >Thorsten. Genius I agree with him, but his reasoning as to why Genius is >'boring' is incorrect. >Anyway, my motives are rarely pure, this I freely admit. >Now how about the attacks last year on Mchess and this year on Mchess ? >Can you explain the coincidence, or should the usual suspicious motives >start to apply ? >>We discuss computer chess here right? >Quite so. But when a demolition job (not entirely your doing, accepted) >gets done on another program/programmer on morality grounds - then there >are external factors which may well need discussing. Surely your'e not >going to censor me for bringing this up ....... ? >>The subject of Book-cooking belongs to that. > >Maybe, but only if totally divorced from naming names. You've been >naming names. Mchess, Sandro Nechi etc. Chris, you keep on saying: - "Rebel-team attacks Mchess" - "Are you motives pure" - "Anti Mchess campaign" and so on. Implying what? With my: "Chris, nobody is asking why the CSTAL team is attacking Genius (boring, no good for analysis and so on). Also the CSTAL team started the subject on the Mchess book-killer issue. Nobody is asking if the motives of the CSTAL team (attacking Genius and Mchess) are pure." example I just turned the situation and (also) added: "That would be ridiculous, no?" So my question was if the CSTAL team is allowed more then the REBEL team proving the contradiction in your statements. So nothing personal to you. If you (as a producer) are allowed to talk about other (competitive) products then so do I. Or? You keep on saying "Rebel-team attacks Mchess", "Are you motives pure", "Anti Mchess campaign" and so on. Fact is that you don't know me at all. We met a few times at AEGON and laughed about specific things and it was fun meeting you but for the rest you know zero about me and my or Jeroens motives and I wish you stop with this. I remember our funny 2-way conversation about (hidden) book-learners in RGCC which you started by the way. Did I accuse you from attacking other commercial opponents? I didn't think so. We both discovered a new development and reported. Fact is that the huge "book-cook" discussion 1.5 years ago in RGCC forced many programmers (including me) to write special software to handle book-cooks automatically by book-learning. Not to speak about the other advantages of book-learning. I would say that is a positive development due to that discussion. - Ed Schroder - >Chris Whittington
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