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Subject: Re: A test position from kramnik-kasparov

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 15:25:31 10/24/00

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On October 24, 2000 at 16:58:29, Uri Blass wrote:

>[D]1r4k1/p3QNpp/1p3n2/8/8/5P2/Pq3P1P/4R1K1 w - - 0 1
>
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>I am interesting to know how much time do chess programs need to find Qe6
>that is probably a winning move because of the line Qe6 h5 Ng5+ Kh8 Qf5 and
>black is in real trouble(for example Qxa2 Re7).

I can add that Qf5 in this line is another hard move to find and programs may
need many minutes to find.

Here is the position when you need to find Qf5

[D]1r5k/p5p1/1p2Qn2/6Np/8/5P2/Pq3P1P/4R1K1 w - - 0 1

Fritz6light can find it in less than a minute on my pentiumIII450 but Hiarcs7.32
cannot see it in 30 minutes.

Crafty17.11 also have problems in this position and needs more than 20 minutes
to see Qf5.

Crafty at depth 13 considers Qf5 for many minutes so I guess it is going to find
it.

I used Crafty17.11 as an engine for Hiarcs
The programs got the all game as the data and not only the position before Qf5.

Uri



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