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Subject: Re: A test position from kramnik-kasparov

Author: Paulo Soares

Date: 18:39:38 10/24/00

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On October 24, 2000 at 19:03:18, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On October 24, 2000 at 16:58:29, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>[D] 1r4k1/p3QNpp/1p3n2/8/8/5P2/Pq3P1P/4R1K1 w - - 0 1
>>
>>
>>I am interesting to know how much time do chess programs need to find Qe6
>>that is probably a winning move because of the line Qe6 h5 Ng5+ Kh8 Qf5 and
>>black is in real trouble(for example Qxa2 Re7).
>>
>>Programs without the luck of being called gambit tiger may need many hours to
>>find Qe6 so please give them time.
>
>Analysis by Deep Fritz T28:
>
>23.Qxf6-- Qxf6
>  -+  (-3.87)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
>  -+  (-6.53)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
>23.Qxa7 Rf8 24.Ne5 Qd2 25.Re3 Qd1+ 26.Kg2
>  -+  (-2.31)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 5/13   00:00:00  4kN
>23.Nd8 h6 24.Ne6 Nh5 25.Qxa7 Rc8 26.Qd7 Qc3 27.Kg2 Qc6 28.Qxc6
>  =  (-0.12)   Depth: 5/13   00:00:00  11kN
>  ²  (0.66)   Depth: 15/34   00:03:54  123343kN
>23.Qe6 h5 24.Ng5+ Kh8 25.Qf5 h4 26.Re4 Qc1+ 27.Kg2 Qc8 28.Rxh4+ Kg8
>  ²  (0.69)   Depth: 15/37   00:07:13  227998kN
>  ±  (1.03)   Depth: 17/39   00:28:31  903867kN
>
>Enrique

Just to do a comparison between Fritz6a and Deep Fritz T28,
but I don't know about your hardware.

Paulo

Fritz 6 - PIII-450 HT=105Mb
1r4k1/p3QNpp/1p3n2/8/8/5P2/Pq3P1P/4R1K1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Fritz 6:

1.Qxa7
  =  (0.06)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00

1.Nd8!
  =  (-0.22)   Depth: 5/14   00:00:00  10kN
1.Nd8 h6 2.Ne6 Nh5 3.Qc7 Re8 4.Qd7 Rb8 5.Qxa7
  ²  (0.56)   Depth: 15/35   00:05:14  114725kN

1.Qe6
  ²  (0.59)   Depth: 15/37   00:14:32  316972kN
1.Qe6 h5 2.Ng5+ Kh8 3.Qf5 h4 4.Re4 Qc1+ 5.Kg2 Qc8
  ±  (1.00)   Depth: 16/38   00:27:13  589588kN

(Soares, Cabo Frio 24.10.2000)

>
>>I am interested to know the score of programs that prefer a different move
>>because I am not sure in 100% that Qe6 is the only winning move.
>>
>>I am also not sure in 100% that the black is losing in the position that
>>kasparov resigned(I believe that black is losing but I think that the decision
>>to resign was too early and it is better to resign only if you sure that you are
>>losing and advantage of rook against a knight is not a good reason to resign
>>when there are queens on the board).
>>
>>Uri



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