Author: pavel
Date: 19:11:53 10/26/00
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On October 26, 2000 at 09:05:51, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>On October 26, 2000 at 07:52:48, pavel wrote:
>
>Mentioning Gandalf is too tempting an oppotunity to pass, but I'll try to keep
>my unreasonable bias under control :o).
:)
>
>>[Event "Computer chess game"]
>>[Site "DEFAULT"]
>>[Date "2000.10.26"]
>>[Round "1"]
>>[White "yace"]
>>[Black "gandalf"]
>
>Why these short engine names? It would be easier if you called them Yace_023 and
>Gandalf_432f. This makes it easier for the casual observer. Just a suggestion.
I prefer this why......one "reasonable" reason can be that, there are so many
chess program updates these days sometimes its either 'hard' or 'irritating'
ever single time you try to edit the names in winboard.ini files.
since I almost always keep the most recent versions and delete the previous
versions, so it's not confusing for me ;)
>
>Are you using your Notebook (PII-400)?
yes thats the only computer I have access as for now,
since i move alo,t desktop is just not my kind, and faster (new ones) laptops
are quite expensive...
well, its better than the hardwares (pentium (not II) 200mhz) that I see being
use in winboard forum to run tournament with 30-40 engines!! :)
>
>>I have no idea why I used yace to play against gandalf...
>>maybe because I like yace a lot ;)
>
>You and me both.
yes indeen...very nice features.
>
>>anyways I would like to play more games with gandalf
>>(already played more than 350+)
>>
>>same time control BUT only winboard engine......any suggestions?
>
>Apart from the ones you've already mentioned I was thinking about LG2000. I'm
>quite sure that Gandalf will have difficulties considering CPU and timecontrol,
>but I haven't tried the matchup myself.
I have the impression that LG is a better blitzer, Maybe I will try that too,
but for now I have already started a matchup against nim2000b
>
>>I have these engine in my mind.....
>>
>>anmon 5.09 (latest?)
>
>Latest and a good choice as well.
>
>>zchess20 (2.02 supposed to be stronger, I need that to test that)
>
>You could try asking Franck Zibi.
I ussually get the most recent versions or test versions mailed to me in my
hotmail account, maybe I will wait for this one to come out first.
>
>I mailed him a few 40/20' games against Gandalf with the new 2.2 version, which
>were all won by Gandalf. I deleted them, but Franck still has them I think.
>
>>crafty 17.13 (gandalf has a thing with crafty, probably allergic)
>
>Hmm... I haven't discovered anything special from my own limited tests or those
>posted by Christian Koch and Frank Quisinsky. It's close but with enough games
>the difference starts to become apparent.
>
>Could it be hardware? The Gandalf results seems to improve with more MHz, or am
>I mistaken?
>
yes definately hardware is a factor for gindalf, but I guess time control plays
a better role than the hardware itself, ie, gandalf will play better in 40/40
then in 40/5 no matter if you use a thunderbird or a pentium II 400mhz.
the hardware issue will have little effect as you give it enough time for it's
moves, at a certain 'depth' (with accumilated time) there is no better moves :)
IMO
>>wbnimzo200b ( would be interesting...)
>
>Don't know much about this Nimzo, but Gandalf might be able to compete at that
>timecontrol.
my guess is that they are in the same level.....
Gandalf probably a 40-50elo better...
>
>A few 45m+10s games with ZChess 2.2 against Yace 0.23.06 :o) is posted below.
>Configuration is Athlon 800MHz, ponder off and 32Mb hash.
>
>[Event "Tournament ML-13."]
>[Site "MCL"]
>[Date "2000.10.26"]
>[Round "3.1"]
>[White "Yace_023"]
>[Black "ZChess_22"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ECO "A26"]
>[PlyCount "111"]
>
>1. c4 e5 2. g3 Nc6 3. Bg2 g6 4. Nc3 Bg7 5. Nf3 d6 6. d3 f5 7. Rb1 Nf6 8. O-O
>O-O 9. b4 a6 10. a4 h6 11. b5 axb5 12. axb5 Ne7 13. Bb2 Be6 14. Ra1 Rb8 15. Ra7
>c6 16. Qc2 Qb6 17. Rfa1 Ng4 18. e3 cxb5 19. Nxb5 Rfc8 20. Qb3 Nxe3 21. fxe3
>Qxe3+ 22. Kh1 Bxc4 23. Qb4 Bd5 24. Qd2 Qxd2 25. Nxd2 Bxg2+ 26. Kxg2 Rc2 27. Bc3
>Nd5 28. R1a2 Rxc3 29. Nxc3 Nxc3 30. Ra8 Rxa8 31. Rxa8+ Kh7 32. Ra7 b5 33. Nf3
>e4 34. dxe4 fxe4 35. Nd4 Kg8 36. Ra8+ Kf7 37. Ra7+ Kf6 38. Rb7 d5 39. Rb6+ Ke5
>40. Nc6+ Kd6 41. Na7+ Kc7 42. Rc6+ Kb7 43. Rxg6 Kxa7 44. Rxg7+ Kb6 45. Rh7 b4
>46. Rh8 Ka5 47. Ra8+ Kb5 48. Rb8+ Ka4 49. Ra8+ Kb3 50. g4 Kc2 51. h4 e3 52. g5
>e2 53. Ra1 hxg5 54. hxg5 Nd1 55. Ra2+ Kd3 56. Rxe2 {White resigns} 0-1
>
>[Event "Tournament ML-13."]
>[Site "MCL"]
>[Date "2000.10.26"]
>[Round "3.2"]
>[White "ZChess_22"]
>[Black "Yace_023"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "A80"]
>[PlyCount "100"]
>
>1. d4 f5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. e3 g6 4. Bd3 Bg7 5. O-O O-O 6. Nc3 d5 7. Ne2 Nc6 8. Nf4
>Ne4 9. c4 e6 10. cxd5 exd5 11. Qb3 Ne7 12. Qa3 Re8 13. b3 Bh6 14. Ne5 Bd7 15.
>Bb2 a5 16. Bxe4 fxe4 17. Qc5 b6 18. Qc2 Rc8 19. Rac1 c5 20. Qe2 Rf8 21. dxc5
>bxc5 22. Rfd1 Bxf4 23. exf4 Rxf4 24. Qe3 Rf8 25. Rxc5 Nf5 26. Rxc8 Qxc8 27. Qe2
>Be6 28. Ng4 Qd8 29. Qa6 Qe7 30. Qxa5 h5 31. Ne5 Nh4 32. Qc3 Kh7 33. Qg3 g5 34.
>Nc6 Qf7 35. b4 Bg4 36. Rc1 Ng6 37. Ne5 Nxe5 38. Bxe5 Bd7 39. Rc5 g4 40. b5 Rc8
>41. Rxc8 Bxc8 42. Bd4 Kh6 43. Qb8 Qd7 44. Qf4+ Kh7 45. a4 Qe7 46. a5 e3 47.
>fxe3 Bd7 48. Qb8 Kg6 49. a6 Qb4 50. Qg8+ 50... Kf5 {Black resigns} 1-0
>
>[Event "Tournament ML-13."]
>[Site "MCL"]
>[Date "2000.10.26"]
>[Round "3.3"]
>[White "Yace_023"]
>[Black "ZChess_22"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ECO "A25"]
>[PlyCount "135"]
>
>1. c4 e5 2. g3 Nc6 3. Nc3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. Rb1 a5 6. d3 d6 7. e3 Nf6 8. Nge2
>O-O 9. O-O Be6 10. e4 Re8 11. a3 Ne7 12. f4 c6 13. fxe5 dxe5 14. Qc2 b5 15. c5
>Qd7 16. Bg5 Ng4 17. Rf3 Qa7 18. Nd1 h6 19. Bd2 g5 20. h3 Nf6 21. Ne3 Nh5 22.
>Rbf1 Red8 23. R1f2 Qd7 24. Nc1 a4 25. Bc3 Qa7 26. Bb4 Qd7 27. Qd1 Rf8 28. Qe1
>Rae8 29. Qf1 Rd8 30. Ba5 Rde8 31. Bb4 Rd8 32. Ba5 Rde8 33. Bc3 Qa7 34. Bb4 Rd8
>35. Qe1 Rfe8 36. Qd2 Rf8 37. Qc3 Nf4 38. Ba5 Rd7 39. Bf1 Bxh3 40. Bb6 Qb7 41.
>Qe1 Be6 42. gxf4 exf4 43. Nc2 Bxb2 44. Rh2 Ng6 45. Rxh6 g4 46. Rf2 g3 47. Rg2
>Bg7 48. Rh1 f5 49. Rh5 Ne5 50. Kh1 Qb8 51. exf5 Qe8 52. Rg5 Rxf5 53. Rxf5 Bxf5
>54. Be2 Qe6 55. Kg1 Bh3 56. Rxg3 fxg3 57. Qxg3 Qh6 58. Ne3 Rf7 59. Bd8 Nf3+ 60.
>Kf2 Nd4+ 61. Kg1 Nf5 62. Nxf5 Qxc1+ 63. Kh2 Bxf5 64. Bh5 Rd7 65. Qg5 Qc2+ 66.
>Qg2 Qxg2+ 67. Kxg2 Rxd8 68. Bd1 {White resigns} 0-1
>
>[Event "Tournament ML-13."]
>[Site "MCL"]
>[Date "2000.10.26"]
>[Round "3.4"]
>[White "ZChess_22"]
>[Black "Yace_023"]
>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>[ECO "A90"]
>[PlyCount "145"]
>
>1. d4 f5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. c4 e6 4. g3 d5 5. Bg2 c6 6. O-O Bd6 7. b3 Qe7 8. Ne5 O-O
>9. Qc2 Bd7 10. Bb2 Be8 11. Nd2 Bh5 12. Rfe1 Ne4 13. Nxe4 fxe4 14. Qd2 Nd7 15.
>Nxd7 Qxd7 16. Qe3 Rf6 17. Rf1 Raf8 18. Bc3 Qf7 19. Rae1 Kh8 20. Ba5 b6 21. Bc3
>c5 22. dxc5 Bxc5 23. Bd4 Bxd4 24. Qxd4 Kg8 25. h3 Qb7 26. Qe5 Be8 27. cxd5 exd5
>28. f3 Bc6 29. fxe4 dxe4 30. Rxf6 Rxf6 31. Rd1 Rf8 32. Qe6+ Kh8 33. Rd4 b5 34.
>Bxe4 Qc7 35. Kg2 Rf6 36. Qg4 Be8 37. Qh4 h6 38. Bf3 Bg6 39. Rd2 Bf5 40. Qd4 Kh7
>41. Qb4 a6 42. Qd4 Qc1 43. Rd1 Qc8 44. g4 Bg6 45. Qe5 Re6 46. Rd8 Rxe5 47. Rxc8
>Bb1 48. a3 Re3 49. Ra8 Rxb3 50. Rxa6 Bc2 51. Rc6 Bg6 52. Rc5 Be8 53. Be4+ Bg6
>54. Bd5 Re3 55. Rxb5 Rxe2+ 56. Kf3 Rd2 57. Be4 Rd4 58. Bxg6+ Kxg6 59. Rb3 h5
>60. Ke2 Ra4 61. Rg3 Kh6 62. gxh5 Kxh5 63. Kd2 g5 64. Kc2 Kh4 65. Rd3 Ra8 66.
>Kb3 Rb8+ 67. Kc4 Rc8+ 68. Kb5 Rb8+ 69. Kc6 Rc8+ 70. Kb6 Rb8+ 71. Kc6 Rc8+ 72.
>Kb6 Rb8+ 73. Kc6 {Draw by repetition} 1/2-1/2
>
>Best wishes...
>Mogens
interesting games from zchess's perpective :)
Thanks
Pavel
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