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Subject: Re: Rebel 11 Strength Question

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 06:06:54 10/27/00

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On October 27, 2000 at 05:11:28, odell hall wrote:

>Hi
>
>  According to the Rebel homepage century 3.0 is approxiamately 100 pts stronger
>against computers than century 1.0 and about 20-30 pts stronger against humans.
>My Question is, How is this 20-30pts figure against humans acertained?  Is there
>any emphirical Data? Test games against humans? ect, ect,.
>May I assume that this 30pt estimate is a purely subjective estimate based on
>speculation?  Exactly how much of a Strength increase is 30 elo pts?, it seems
>very small to me, I do not think a 30 elo point increase would be noticeable to
>a Strong human.  If Century 3.0 is 100 pts stronger against computers than
>century 1.0, How do we know for a fact that this 100pt increase does not convert
>over to human vs computer games?  Has it ever been Established Scientifically
>that Programs gain more elo against other programs than against humans?

I know only that Bob Hyatt found that hardware improvement is more important
against computers than against humans in ICC but in this case it is a software
improvement and we cannot know that it is the same as hardware improvement

I guess that the 20-30 elo is only speculation and I am more optimistic about
the difference against humans.

I do not think that it is identical to the improvement against computers but I
guess that it is at least 50 elo improvement.

Uri



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