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Subject: Re: SSDF Rating list 00-10-27

Author: Bertil Eklund

Date: 09:59:00 10/27/00

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On October 27, 2000 at 12:43:59, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 27, 2000 at 12:35:28, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>
>>On October 27, 2000 at 12:23:35, Marcus Kaestner wrote:
>>
>>>>Gandalf suffered from a learning bug and lost the same opening twice against
>>>>Junior because the learning is destroyed.
>>>>I believe that the same happened against other programs.
>>>>
>>>>I think that the real ssdf rating of gandalf should be better because the bug
>>>>was corrected and I understood that the bug appears only when you stop games
>>>>played by the autoplayer and is not relevant for the customer.
>>>>
>>>>I do not say that it is better than Fritz6a but I believe that it is better than
>>>>the rating that it got.
>>>
>>>
>>>more important: gandalf wins very much from fast computers. ALL the testers i
>>>know have the same results: on a 1 ghz machine with game in one hour, gandalf is
>>>slightly behind fritz6a.
>>
>>The 40:2 of the SSDF on AMD 450s is slower than Game/60 on a 1 Ghz machine, and
>>their rating for Gandalf was much lower than "slightly behind F6a."
>>
>>Enrique
>
>Their results are not convincing because gandalf suffered from a learning bug.
>
>I am interested to know the rating if you do not include losses of gandalf
>because of the learning bug.
>
>It is possible that it is only slightly behind F6a without the learning bug.
>
>Uri
Hi!

I guess this could have affected the outcome in 1-3 games say 1,5 points of over
300 games. BTW before the corrected bug (about 50-60 games) Gandalf had 2572.

Don't forget that Gandalf is probably the best Winboard-engine, number six in
the list and last but not least a very nice program to follow. Very sharp play,
maybee without direct speculative play but very exciting attacks. Also remember
that it probably plays better with todays cpus and likes longer time-controls.

Bertil



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