Author: Frank Quisinsky
Date: 11:42:45 10/27/00
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On October 27, 2000 at 12:39:35, Bertil Eklund wrote: >On October 27, 2000 at 12:23:35, Marcus Kaestner wrote: > >>>Gandalf suffered from a learning bug and lost the same opening twice against >>>Junior because the learning is destroyed. >>>I believe that the same happened against other programs. >>> >>>I think that the real ssdf rating of gandalf should be better because the bug >>>was corrected and I understood that the bug appears only when you stop games >>>played by the autoplayer and is not relevant for the customer. >>> >>>I do not say that it is better than Fritz6a but I believe that it is better than >>>the rating that it got. >> >> >>more important: gandalf wins very much from fast computers. ALL the testers i >>know have the same results: on a 1 ghz machine with game in one hour, gandalf is >>slightly behind fritz6a. on tournament level (3h/game) on the same machine >>gandalf is better than f6a. >> >>so you need a very fast computer or a long time control for really great >>gandalf-results. if you compare the ssdf-results with the hardware they use, the >>result fits. >> >>but give gandalf a faster machine and you can see how it turns... >> >>marcus > >Hi! > >It's one more thing you forgot. When I checked almost all programs on AMD K6-2 >vs Pentium 2 450mhz. All programs were faster or about equally fast on AMD >except for Crafty and Gandalf3. Crafty and Gandalf3 on AMD compares to a P2 on >ca: 333-350 mhz. Both Crafty and Gandalf could earn about 30 elo if they used an >Intel 450. > >Bertil Hi Bertil, that is right ! But Gandalf played stronger and stronger with longer time controls with compare to other programs. Here I get in the last time a lot of games on 1 GHz systems. I think with longer time controls on a faster machine has Gandalf the same or played a little bit better then the SSDF number 1 Fritz 6a ! For minutes I put 20 games from Longin Bauer on my webpage. With the T-Town games, I think standing so far is 10.0 : 8.0 for Gandalf (I am not sure) is the result 20 : 18 for Gandalf 4.32f ! More games coming soon ... And ... It is always the same ! You can see in complicated postions that Gandalf solved problems in 3-20 minutes on my Pentium III 733 MHz hardware. In saw in hundrets of positions that Gandalf found the right main variant in 3-20 minutes and not in blitz tempo. I got hundrets of games with Gandalf and longer time controls and plays a lot of games with 40 moves in 40 minutes. In my opinion is Gandalf 4.32f at the moment for analyses the number 1 and one of best 5 chess programs with longer time controls. Best Frank
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