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Subject: Re: Interesting Shredder 5 news!

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 17:15:02 10/28/00

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On October 28, 2000 at 19:32:24, pete wrote:

>On October 27, 2000 at 00:09:18, Mark Loftus wrote:
>
>>
>>>b.) Anyone noticed that at last it is more or less officially confirmed that
>>>Genius is history ?
>>>
>>>Regards.
>>>
>>>pete
>>
>>Where did you hear this?
>
>Hi Mark,
>
>first I concluded from for the first time no Genius being included in the new
>Millenium package . In the meantime Ossi Weiner has confirmed that Richard Lang
>stopped development of Genius for the time being in a German Chess forum .
>
>My personal impression has been that serious Genius development ended with
>Genius 3 for quite some time .
>
>>
>>Does this mean that Richard Lang has given up working on his program?
>>If so, why?
>
>Mr Weiner says it is because of the amount of people distributing illegal copies
>of his programs and thereby destroying market ; yet this doesn't sound
>convincing .
>
>I personally suspect he simply lost interest after some 20 years of doing the
>same old thing , but this is based on no facts .
>
>
>>Or does it just mean his deal with Millenium is over?
>>I enjoyed his programs for many years.
>>
>>Mark
>
>Same here . I was a Genius fan for a long time . And even now when others have
>taken over it is still quite special and seems to understand a few things better
>than the competitors.
>
>Genius is great in positional evaluation and endgame.
>
>It seems to me that due to a low branching factor at higher plies it can't
>profit from the better hardware as much as the new programs do .

I do not believe that it is only low branching factor.

Genius has other problems.

1)It does less extensions than other programs and cannot extend more than 12
plies.

It canot see lines of more than 32 plies.

2)There are positions that it does not understand when other programs
understand.

Other programs worked many years about improving their evaluation when lang did
not do it and it is natural that other programs got better evaluation function
in part of the positions.

Uri



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