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Subject: Re: Enrique you have analyzed most of K-K games using Betas ??

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 05:18:32 10/29/00

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On October 28, 2000 at 17:43:44, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>Mr Enrique you have analyzed most of Kasparov vs Kramnik games using the
>latest betas of Gambit Tiger 1.0 Deep Fritz and others... What is your
>perception of how close these Betas, or should I asked which beta so far has
>predicted more accurately the next moves of the best two players in the World.

I didn't keep track of which program predicted most moves, but globally I have
the impression that Deep Fritz, Century 3 and Gambit did an excellent job, not
only at predicting but at suggesting moves pertinent to the positions. The PVs
of Gandalf posted by Mogens were quite impressive too. I guess I must revise my
idea about the general incompetence of programs in positional play. I also have
the impression that these programs would have done better than Kasparov and
Kramnik in yesterday's game and in those two games in which Kramnik failed to
win. I am not implying that they play better than Kasparov and Kramnik, of
course not, but I don't have it clear that in the cases of divergence the moves
they picked were necessarily inferior.

It was also interesting to see how programs evaluated Kramnik's attack
yesterday. The King, Deep Junior and Gambit "believed" in it, while Deep Fritz
and Gandalf, in agreement with Shipov,  did not.

>Now my next question even if you don't have the beta version of Shredder 5

I had it, but not any longer.

>what chances do you really give to Shredder 5 in scoring a least 33% of the
>games against Kasparov.

This is anybody's guess. I find important in this regard the recent match Deep
Fritz - van der Wiel, in which a great anti-computer expert was unable to make
the program look like an idiot. DF won 3-1.

Enrique

> If Kasparov accept the Challenge after the match with
>Kramnik is over, even if he is detroned from the Title, it seems to me that
>current P.C. chess programs are not too far from selecting the same moves that
>super GM can produce given normal standard time control.
>
>Pichard.



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