Author: Uri Blass
Date: 19:05:58 10/29/00
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On October 29, 2000 at 21:18:53, Eelco de Groot wrote: >On October 28, 2000 at 18:35:32, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On October 28, 2000 at 17:59:23, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote: >> >>>GT did consider Bb7 for about one minute after 7 minutes of thinking on my PII >>>333 with 28 Mb hash. The analysis was similar to Sarahs' afterward. The score >>>did remain negative for black however. >>> >>>GT would never "under-develope" to the extent that black did. The game is a >>>draw even with material superiority due to the horrible back rank situation. At >>>least GT tells us how "not" to play. >>> >>> >>>Tim Frohlick >> >>I posted the game. >>I do not know if gambit would get itself to the position that I posted(I think >>that bxc5 was too greedy and Ba6 was better but I did not analyze the game for a >>long time and I may be wrong). >> >>You can try to see if there is a move in the game that gambit does not like. >> >>I see that gambit understands the position better than other programs(it can at >>least see that f6 has negative score) >> >>It cannot see that Bb7 is good enough for black to draw but I am not sure if Bb7 >>is really good enough for a draw(I only know that it was probably good enough >>for moshe to draw and it is possible that gambit can improve the opponent's >>moves after Bb7) >> >>Uri > >Hi Uri, > >Maybe Tim is right and the game should be a draw. What I would like to see is a >good winning line for White after 14. .. f7-f6 or 14. ..f7-f5, that could tell >us more. Here is a winning line after 14...f5 15.Bh6 f4 16.Ng5 Nb6 17.Bxg7 Kxg7 18.Rh7+ Kg8 19.Ke2 I did not see a clear winning line after 14...f6 but I guess that I did not analyze deep enough and unfortunately moshe did not save all the analysis that he did but he is convinced that 14...f6 is losing. I see that I do not like black's position after 14...f6 because black has problems to develop the pieces and white has interesting options after 15.Bh6 Qe7 16.Bxg7 Kxg7 I can see here that programs may like white if I continue against them but the score is only a small positive score. > >Rebel Century 2.0 favors White after 14. ..Bc8-b7 but not after 14. ..f6 after a >not very long analysis. I am not surprised. It is typical for all programs to like white after Bb7 and not after f6 because they are materialistic. After Bb7 there is a simple way for white to return the material and they think that white has positional advantage. Uri
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